Joint Statement with Attorneys General, NCMEC

Joint Statement with NCMEC and over 40 Attorneys General Detailing Measures to Prevent Illegal Activity and Improve Safety

craigslist Files 14 Lawsuits Against Software and Service Providers who Facilitate Misuse of Site

November 06, San Francisco, CA – craigslist announced today it is implementing sweeping new measures, in close partnership with state law enforcement and the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC), to prevent its online communities and classified ads from being misused for the facilitation of human trafficking, child exploitation, and other illegal activities.

The measures were outlined in a joint statement signed by craigslist, NCMEC, and the attorneys general of more than 40 U.S. states and territories, representing a broad collaborative effort spearheaded by Connecticut Attorney General Richard Blumenthal. The specific measures outlined in today’s joint statement were shaped during face-to-face meetings between Jim Buckmaster, CEO of craigslist, Attorney General Blumenthal, and representatives of NCMEC.

“Preventing site misuse and improving public safety are our highest priorities,” said Jim Buckmaster, CEO of craigslist, “and we are extremely appreciative of the encouragement we’ve received from the attorneys general and NCMEC.” He added, “The incidence of crime on craigslist is actually exceedingly low, considering the tens of millions of legitimate ads posted each month by well-intentioned users.” “But no amount of criminal activity is acceptable, and as craigslist has grown, we have become aware of instances where our free services were being misused to facilitate illegal activities.” Buckmaster continued, “We are unequivocally committed to stamping out misuse of the site and to improving safety for craigslist users, through preventative measures such as the ones we are announcing as part of the Joint Statement.”

Due in part to the growth of craigslist, businesses have sprung up selling software and other services designed to evade craigslist’s terms of use, and to circumvent its technical defenses against misuse, including phone verification. By offering services designed to undermine craigslist’s ability to enforce its terms of use, these businesses facilitate the placement of ads for illegal services that would otherwise be blocked by craigslist’s protective measures. craigslist has no tolerance for these activities and has filed 14 lawsuits and is sending “cease and desist” demands to numerous other companies and individuals offering such services. In addition, craigslist will investigate and provide information to state attorneys general for the prosecution of those engaging in and facilitating criminal activity.

craigslist is constantly working to improve its existing tools for enforcing its terms of use. In this regard, the company has continued to refine its protocols for blocking inappropriate postings and advertisements for illegal services. In addition, a flagging system accompanies each ad, so that inappropriate content can be identified by users for quick removal. craigslist has also implemented the industry standard PICS rating system for tagging adult content, to facilitate parental screening software on home computers.

craigslist recently implemented a telephone verification system for the “erotic services” section of the site, requiring a working phone number for advertisers, and enabling blacklisting of phone numbers for those who post inappropriate ads. Phone verification resulted in an 80% reduction in ad volume, and significantly increased compliance with site guidelines.

In addition to phone verification and other existing protective measures, craigslist will soon require credit card verification and a small fee per ad for posting in “erotic services”, to further encourage compliance with
site guidelines. Paid ads that violate site guidelines will be removed without refund. The company intends to donate 100% of net revenue generated from these ads to charity, with net revenue to be verified by an external auditor.

“Requiring credit card verification, and charging a fee to post in this category raises accountability to a point where we expect few illicit ads will remain,” says Buckmaster. “For those that do persist, telephone and credit card information will be available to law enforcement via subpoena. More than ever, those who would misuse craigslist to violate the law will find that craigslist is a very inhospitable place.”

The craigslist site is used by 40 million Americans each month, who represent a potent force for identifying and reporting illicit activity. In addition to participating in NCMEC’s Cybertipline program, and urging craigslist users to flag suspect postings and file a report anytime they suspect the exploitation of a minor or human trafficking, craigslist will work with NCMEC and the state attorneys general to further improve site messaging to build awareness of these important issues. Buckmaster added, “Human trafficking and child exploitation are despicable crimes, and in addition to working diligently to prevent such abuse, we want to do everything we can to raise awareness among craigslist users so that they will be even more vigilant.”

321 Responses to “Joint Statement with Attorneys General, NCMEC”

  1. Tom Geller Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 12:12 pmCongratulations, folks. This is outstanding. We’re all rooting for you.
  2. B Pict Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 12:53 pmThis is a sad day and a terrible precedent. Caving in to the police establishment is not about public safety. It is about Buckmaster and company unwilling to fight for privacy of craiglist clients. Do I think the intrusion will stop at erotic services? Maybe. The police powers will be seeking additional information from craigslist if they believe political anarchists/militants (whatever name they want to call dissenters) are using the forum/exchange to organize.
  3. Bob F Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 12:58 pmTime to Boycott Craigslist.  

    I thought craigslist was a supporter of freedom, civil and economic freedom.

    This credit card fee BS will be the deathknell of the ERS section.

    I live in CT and I am livid that my Attorney General is the one who spearheaded this initiative. Dick Blumenthal apparently lives up to his namesake.

    Bye bye craigslist, I hope others will join my boycott.

  4. Carmen Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 2:55 pmJust wondering what you intend to do about the Nigerians posting fake housing ads and trying to get you to wire a 1000 dollars to them?  

    I’m an escort and I’m all for the police cracking down on people who exploit minors and women but for the most part the women who post in the erotic section of Craigslist are normal, average women who aren’t hurting ANYONE.

    Maybe you should assist the police in going after criminals or the people who sell “snow” in the for sale section. How about getting the Nigerian who just attempted to get me to send 1000.00 USD to Nigeria for a deposit on an apartment credit card information. So that when I report the scam you can do something more than tell me that, “I’m glad you saw through the attempted scam…”!

  5. John Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 3:37 pmGet ready to play Whack A Mole. The erotic services people will now post their ads in other sections of Craigslist.
  6. Wolf Da Great Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 5:27 pmWow.
    I saw the News broadcast about you guys working with the police against internet user privacy… Honestly how the …. could you. Iam a student and ex soldier. An I dont dig prostitution or human trade or sale. But when you open you doors to americas corrupt law enforcement your business losses pull with the main people who use the internet. People who belive in website who seem to allow people to be free in a place where police should not be able to go to the companys records an figure out who you are and pin point where you live. Being a soldier I know that not everyone in a uniform should be TRUSTED let alone allowed to gain access to information. And craiglist just basically said we are now the internet POLICE.
    being the news broadcasting type of guy that Iam I will make sure that, College students, soldiers, and other people who constantly have praised CRAIGLIST as the goto site knows how you guys really do……Iam so dissappointed
  7. KandiKisses Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 6:49 pmWhat about the flagging? Do we pay and have to worry about other people flagging us now?
  8. Ben Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 6:55 pmI think if you take a look at any erotic section on Craigslist, prostitution is quite alive and active. Even with the verification, these services are still available. So I’m not quite sure how this will stop other “illegal activities,” but maybe its more of an exercise for this Attorney General to generate self publicity.  

    Craigslist has long been a guiding light when its come to freedom of the Internet, and freedom of expression. The rants and raves sections have been a long time favorite; to see people freely expressing themselves is a joy.

    As with any corporation, it seems that over time policy replaces the ingenuity and the spirit that speaks to the heart.

    I hope that Craigslist, once again, finds its heart.

  9. david park Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 6:58 pmwe have to look for other website to post ads and keep our privacy.i think.
  10. Summer/Kristin Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 7:04 pmReady To Boycott!!!!!!!!!!
    Looks like we’ll be going elsewhere. Way to go craigslist! you really think you’ve accomplished something! It’s not like there’s not a million other places to post! And where we do decide to post even if it is a paid site….it won’t be flagged every five minutes……as a matter of fact, you can check me out on Escorts.com and or City Vibe….Later craig’slist…….WHAT A JOKE!!!!
  11. hottie25 Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 7:09 pmYeah I see they are charging 5 dollars now to post. Craigslist is only hurting themselves. Most of the people looking on there look on erotic services, they will just start going to a different site thats free. Then if they need to find anythinhg else besides erotic services they’ll prolly use the new site they are on because its already open, or in their fav list, and its more convenient. Craigslist is totally screwing themselves, good luck with this CL, youll need it. Not to mention most girls flag competitor ads constantly, so if someone pays for an ad, then a diff girl flags it down, you say in the above article that they wont get a refund. You are horrible people. People are flag crazy there are even people who buy programs to flag ads down, so you are stealing lots of money from people. Horrible
  12. angel holiday Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 7:10 pmwtf??….$5.00 a posting?? this is outrageous!!
  13. Lovings Webmistress Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 7:11 pmAn and of an era. I’m sorry to say, but I feel like there *has* to be some kind of a filter for the identity & the age of a person placing an adult entertainment ad.  

    I’m webmistress of an Adult Entertainment Guide here in the Bay Area, and we’ve been requiring a proof of age for our advertisers since 1996. The great majority of our potential advertisers have no problem with that, and their private information is a sacred trust as far as I’m concerned, and handled as such. A large part of our employee training includes protection of privacy of our advertisers. We also offer people an option to destroy all their info once they’re no longer advertising with us – after all, you never know if someone’s gonna run for the office in the future :-). I hope Craig decides to employ a similar system.

    Of the small number of people who refused to supply a proof of age (or had tried to pass a fake one), a sizable number ended up in the newspapers or on TV under the “Underage prostitution ring busted” headlines. Not everyone by all means, but enough to make us glad we have the age check in place. I fully respect a person’s decision to refuse to supply a proof of age in order to advertise on our web site, but our requirement is based on both the business and personal reasons-

    1) I don’t ever, ever want to see a kid advertising as an adult entertainer on our web site. Kids don’t belong in sex industry – I think everyone agrees.

    2) I don’t want to go to jail. Several reps of newspaper weeklies around the country have recently ended up in court for running adult ads for underage advertisers. I don’t feel it’s fair to expect Craig or any of his people to take the jail time to keep the “free for all” spirit of the online erotic classifieds. Would you?

    3) Quality. Some kind of identity checking really helps keep down spam in adult advertising. Craig tried to keep down the abuse by checking phone numbers, but the spammers had the system beat within a week. It’s too easy to get a dozen disposable numbers from one of the online “get a local phone number” providers. Clicking on a same ad with different titles fifteen times on the same page doesn’t make the site user friendly, and hurts the responsible erotic services providers who play by the rules.

    4) More safety for everyone. Internet is a scary place, and there is no guarantee of perfect safety, but an adult entertainer who advertises on the web site that makes a concerted effort to ensure that everyone on site is of legal age does run less chance that their ad will be up on TV one day, because the ad right next to them was of a 14 year old girl. The person calling that advertiser is also safer, because they can be reasonably sure that they’re not going to be caught getting a lap dance or an erotic massage from that same 14 year old. Every other adult business, from strip clubs to adult stores & adult webcam modeling require even more stringent age & identity checking procedure.

    What we’re seeing here is no different from the change in the Internet overall since its beginnings – 12 years ago, many university and other servers were wide open. Things worked on honor system. You could log in almost anywhere with little or no checking. (Agh, I’m showing my age!)

    Then, as more and more abuses happened, the security grew. These days, you can’t even join an online forum without a return confirmation link in your email and squinting at that captcha image trying to decipher the squigglies.

    Craigslist has chosen to use credit cards as an additional layer of security against abuse. This is one of the less intrusive ways he could have done it. They *did* say that any disclosures would require a subpoena – a court order which is not so frivolously given. Craig is a good guy. He held off as long as he could. Give him a break.

  14. janie williams Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 7:11 pmI think your prices are ridicilous! Your going to lose alot of potiential customers with $5 per post!
  15. ARIEL Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 7:12 pmTHIS IS PURE B.S., I AM AN ESCORT, AND THIS ISNT GOING TO STOP US FROM POSTING, U THINK WE ARE STUPID ENOUGH TO LET YOU RETRIEVE OUR CREDIT CARD INFO SO YOU CAN PIN US? LOL… MOST OF US WORKING GIRLS, HAVE ENOUGH STRUGGLES TO DEAL WITH, WE ARENT BAD PEOPLE, WHY DO THEY HATE US SO MUCH? PROSTITUTION IS THE MOST HISTORIC ACTIVITY FOR DECADES, YOU ARE NEVER EVER GOING TO SHUT IT DOWN…WE ARE NOT HURTING ANYONE!!! LEAVE US ALONE, GO AFTER THOSE RAPIST/MURDERERS/CHILD MOLESTERS, WE GET WHAT WE NEED, AND THE JOHNS GET WHAT THEY ASK FOR… GO AFTER THE PIMPS THAT CONTROL THE MINDS OF YOUNG GIRLS, THE ONES WHO ARENT INDEPENDENT, AND LEAVE THE REAL INDEPENDENT WORKING LADIES ALONE…DAMN!!!! GET OVER YOURSELF, YOU WILL NEVER WIN THIS GAME!!!! LADIES, GO WITH YOUR 1ST MIND, POST IN ANOTHER CATEGORY ON CRAIGSLIST!!!!! JOIN ME….THEY CANT CHARGE IN OTHER CATEGORIES, OR NO ONE WILL EVER GET ON THIS SITE, LOL!!!! LET’S DO THIS…..JOHN’S DON’T GIVE IN TO THIS POLICE SCANDAL CRAP….SEE YA SOON!!!!
  16. le Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 7:14 pmcraigslist FAIL!
  17. NEED THAT MONEY Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 7:14 pmI THINK CHARGING FOR EROTIC IS FUCKED UP AND NOBODY IS GONNA POST ON C.L CAUSE HOW U GO FROM FREE TO 5DOLLARS THATS CRAZY AND YALL KNOCKIN PEOLPLES HUSTEL
  18. lil mama Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 7:15 pmThis is outrageous,I thought the Es list was open to those who choose to use it and be discreet,but now you tell us that you’re working with the police to pretty much violate our privacy and find things about the people that we thought you kept private,now they will just post other places on craigslist.
    You will definitely lose a lot of customers with this decision. I hope you know what you doing.
  19. Adolf Hitler Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 7:21 pmThere we go again, internet Nazis. Whats funny is, how can craigslit PROVE what actually goes on behind the closed doors of adults. Im all for keeping children safe, so if thoes types of ads are posted take them down. However massages and fetishes and paying for a person’s time is NOT illegal. What i cant understand is, why even have an “erotic services” section? Doesnt “service” mean you pay something and “erotic” mean sex? maybe craiglist should be investigated for providing a place for people to “PAY FOR SEX” since they provide the place, and charge the money for the activity to take place. Just a thought.
  20. a pretty courtesan Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 7:24 pmAs long as have horny men on the planet it will be women charging for releasing men’s sexual needs and it will be men paying them for that.
  21. KIARA Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 7:26 pmI JUST THINK THIS IS A BUNCH OF BS. AMERICA IS SUPPOSED TO BE A COUNTRY OF FREEDOM,HOWEVER THERE ARE PEOPLE CONTROLLING EVERY MOVE WE MAKE. THE EVERYDAY USERS OF CRAIGSLIST , SUCH AS MYSELF, WOULD SURELY FLAG DOWN ANY EXPLOITATION OF CHILDREN, AND THE OTHER ISSUES LISTED LIKE ONE OTHER PERSON SAID WE WILL JUST FIND ANOTHER WAY TO POST OUR EROTIC SERVICES, SO REALLY IT DOESN’T MATTER JUST ANOTHER MONEY SCAM ON US IN THESE HARD TIMES!!!!
  22. Samuel Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 7:30 pmThis is some bull crap. There is tons of missing babies, unsolved homicides, …….and some of everything else going on. Why don’t the freaking POLICE go out and try to do something about that? Craigslist is now the interenet POLICE! Lets BOYCOTT Craigslist everybody! This is some Freaking ^%#^^!!!  

    How about it guys!

  23. Nadi Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 7:34 pmI personally think this is stupid. If you were worried about people esploiting children on this website you would cancel the site or at least disable the link to erotic services, instead you want to charge to post. It’s all about money and that’s ok just dont blame it on something else.
  24. Five-dollars-per-ES-ad Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 7:34 pmI can understand why craigslist.com wants to stop illegal actvity, but this credit card verification and five dollar charge for posts in erotic services is going to have two negative results:  

    1.Thos people 18 and older, who willingly and legally offering their time and companionship through the erotic services section will stop posting because they don’t want their credit card information and bill linked to that service section if they want to be discrete. Plus those people might be worried they could wind up paying 5 dollars that someone could take away by flaging their ad before it has time to bring them business.

    2. There will still be people willing to post ads offeirng illegal activity; they will simply use stolen credit card numbers or numbers from prepaid greendot cards. Or they might avoid paying all together and go straight to the personals section to post for free in casual encounters.

  25. Elliot Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 7:35 pmYes time to BoyCott Craigslist.  

    No refunds if your ad gets flagged off. The competition flags ads off all the time. There are even programs you can get to flag people. So I guess a lot of people will lose their 5 dollars over and over and over again…

    BOYCOTT

  26. Hype Ocrite Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 7:36 pmYep, just another way to harass… People are gunna do what they choose NO mATTER!! CL used to be a way to express yourself…without JUdGEMENT… I think their breeches got too TIGHT! Funny, when people get some fame. GOOD OR BAD…they tend to forget WHO PUT THEM THERE!! The lil people who supported them and used their services…US! Boycott, of CL is the only way!
  27. JESSICA Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 7:40 pmI am an escort also part time just to cover bills I’m not able to cover with my regular paycheck. I haven’t done anything illegal. I go out on dates with guys who need a female by their side or spend quality time with guys. Nothing sexual. I have seen the ads on craigslist where females are prostituting and i’m all for stopping it. but i still dont think craigslist should punish everyone for that by making us pay a fee. i dont even have a credit or debit card, so i cant even post anymore. I think that’s some bullshit. FUCK CRAIGSLIST!!!!!!
  28. sexi lexi Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 7:41 pmGREAT!! If you EVER answered the “help abuse” emails that 30 or more posters have sent regarding the ERS section in BILOXI/Gulfport area,you’d know that ip changers are used all over,and community flagging is a joke!! nOW LEGIT ESCORTS such as myself will need to pay each time we are flagged,right? You should get a few staff to review the ad before some jealous jerk can boot it off. Im going elsewhere,myself…
  29. Dollar Bill Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 7:42 pmAs an adult advertising rep who sells advertising for several venues, I’m most ecstatic to see CL go. I’ve been imploring Craig for years to charge for the erotic services section and apparently what I could not accomplish law enforcement finally has! Cl enabled virtually every good-looking party girl from the New York City area to become a prostitute. Underage pimps used to fill the rooms at 32nd St. hotels with their “girlfriends” while they posted their CL ads in the computer room or at internet cafes across the street. Craig is well rid of this albatross. I suspect that law enforcement basically told him if he didn’t cooperate, they’d attempt to prosecute him as a pimp of sorts – albeit one who let the girls keep all the money. Personally, I stopped selling CL ads a long time ago and with the current requirements in place am hoping for a surge in demand as the girls can no longer freeload their ads free-of-charge from Mr. Newmark. For people who view this as unnecessary and inappropriate censorship…if you’d seen what I’ve seen, you might just want to make an exception here.
  30. JENNY Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 7:49 pmyou could charge a penny then….
  31. yeah yeah yeah Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 7:49 pmyeah yea yeah see what happens when young bitches do stupid sh*%. Thanks anyways. Who didnt know that this was coming??????
  32. JOHN DOE Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 7:50 pm!!! GOT 2 B ABOUT THE MONEY !!! WELL I GUESS THE STREETS ARE NOW SAFER THEN CRAIGSLIST!!! THEY ARE NOT GET N MY NAME , ADDRESS VISA , OR INFO . NO WAY !
  33. Mike Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 7:57 pmThis is disgusting! What is next, Craigslist, handing over names and email addresses of gay people (from the M4M and W4W section) to the government? What about those names and email addresses of people who say things critical of the government? This is a slippery slope. Thank you for speeding up the transition of the USA into a true facisitic state. Why don’t you instead go after those Nigerian assholes who spam me every time I place a Craigslist ad.
  34. Johny Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 8:08 pmFreedom of Speech ? What is it, never heard of it. Good job Craigs. You are my number ONE, Not Any More. Instead of women working in secured places you just forced them onto streets. Instead of all those money going to pay the rent they will pay their Pi-daddys.
  35. Horatio Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 8:09 pmThis is not going to protect anyone. It’s going to violate the privacy of many people. Craigslist should hire lawyers and fight against doing this. Craigslist is moving beyond safety into colluding with these attorneys general for the creation of a totalitarian government system in the United States.
  36. TRUST 2 FLAME Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 8:26 pmHONESTLYEVEN IF YOU DID DO THE CREDIT CARD INFORMATION OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, ITS NOT GONNA STOP PEOPLE FROM POSTING. WOMEN TO MEN POST EVERY DAY.. ALL THE TIME. ALL IT DID WAS CUT A FEW. BUT CREDIT CARD. YEA ANY ONE CAN GET ONE OF THOSE PREPAID CREDIT CARDS.. DONT YOU THINK.. AND SO JUST HOW MUCH INFORMATION WOULD YOU HAVE THEN.?… YEA I DIDNT THINK SO.. EITHER.. BUT EITHER WAY YOU HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE WHO IS UNDER BUSINESS AND YOU ALREADY KNOW ITS NOT THE BUSINESS.. LMAO.. WELL ONLY IDIOTS HONESTLY WHO POST ON THE ES. WITH THERE OWN PERSONAL CARDS ARE NOT THAT BRIGHT..
  37. Mike Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 8:27 pmSo, here’s $5 betting a new site will emerge and do everything the old craigslist did and more. I’m all for enabling law and order the tools needed to catch criminals but not at the expense of privacy. Even so, prostitutes have been advertising for years on CL and they finally got shut down, highlighting the near futility of trying to police the internet it’s too big and broad to be governed and before you know it they’ll have their hands full dealing with a new site and CL will be yesterday’s news
  38. Me Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 8:32 pmThis does not prevent escorts from going into other categories like long term relationships and casual encounters soliciting sex using words like generous gentleman.
  39. Mr. Magic Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 8:33 pmHonestly, I agree with wolf. This is rediculous. You are jeopardizing the privacy of the whole due to the infractions of a few. What really disturbs me is the fact that the entire paragraph is severly vague as to what you consider “illicit activity.” I hope you do something about this but in the mean time I will be reposting this page publically so that people know that you’re violating their privacy.  

    The police can use the site anonymously to catch these people anyway. Don’t use a nuclear bomb to take care of a mouse problem.

  40. mandy Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 8:36 pmthis is the dumbest shit i’ve ever heard … u have to pay to post on a free site ….
  41. michele Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 8:37 pmthis is the most ridiculous thing I have heard so far. Most of these postings are legitimate erotic services and not illegal activities. you all need to find a life of your own and stop getting into others.
  42. michele Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 8:40 pmI agree to BOYCOTT CRAIGSLIST
  43. Maverick Top Gunner Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 9:16 pmThinking of the 5th Amendment and the right to freedom of speech and press. The consider the notion of caving in to the police establishment is not about public safety.
    It has more to do with the ever expanding powers of law enforcement and the intrusion of privacy upon ALL American citizens.
    Will it stop at erotic services?
    Maybe. . .
    Law enforcement needs power to catch those who choose to use CL to harm children and commit cyber crimes on victims world wide.
    However, the police will be seeking additional information from craigslist if they believe sex workers, hookers, providers, hobbiest and so called pimps as well as excort services(whatever name they want to call those so-called players of the game) are using the CL forum to market, promote, advertise, organize or even hook up.
    The power goes to the people who use the medium for positive means of expression and discovery.
    We must all keep in mind that ALL expression under the Bill of Rights are PROTECTED for EVERYONE.
  44. the great Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 9:19 pmThis is soo sad.
  45. Very Upset Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 9:21 pmWHY SHOULD THE EROTIC SERVICES HAVE TO PAY TO POST. WHY NOT CHARGE EVRYONE? WHY DO YOU ONLY WANT MONEY FROM WORKING GIRLS? SEEMS LIKE SOMEONE ON THE HIGH END HAD A BAD EXPERIANCE…
    IM WITH BOB. WE SHOULD BOYCOTT CRAIGSLIST!
  46. Sandra Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 9:22 pmWell I am so dissappointed in you as a us citizen. You just think the craigslist girls are all prostitutes and thats where you are wrong. Why dont you think about this for a minute: Half these girls on here do what they have to do to survive including myself for the fact being that they had once made a mistake a has now scarred their criminal records and cannot land a decent worth while job to support themselves or a family. So whats your solution??? throw them into jail??? thats really solving the damn problem. Maybe pull your heads out of your tight A#$%es and maybe solve the prostitution problem by offering these girls a fricking halfway decent job disregarding their criminal background and forget that we as americans make mistakes and can move forward not backwards. Helloooooo what the hell do you think your going to solve by ruining them even more by busting them and throwing them in jail is going to do?? They just get out and do it again because they cant get a decent job. I am one to speak because I sit in that exact boat and you people dont help the matter but make it worse. You should be ashamed of your selves!!!!!  

    Sincerly a former craigslist Girl Sandra

  47. Wise Owl Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 9:28 pmI think you are a bunch of uptight hysterical prigs, not to mention sell outs. While I strongly agree that human trafficking and child exploitation are reprehensible and should be punished to the fullest extent of the law, this does not give you the right to violate the privacy of sex workers by insisting on a credit card number. This will not end up well for them or for you.  

    Craigslist used to be a wonderful edgy internet forum. Now it has become America On Line 2.

    And by the way, you have done precious nothing about the scam ads that riddle the apartments for rent sections. If a young teenager can make short work of rooting these out, so can you.

    This is a dark day for craigslist. Shame on you!!

  48. Tom Geller Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 9:36 pmI feel I should respond, especially after getting a private email from someone who said this is against “economic freedom”. He seems to be championing the deceitful tricks spamming software employs; I don’t think that should be dignified by a response. However, concerns here about how this affects sex freedom IMHO *are* worth discussing.  

    For the record: I’ve been active in sex-freedom communities (if you want to call them that) since 1986. I was at the 1987 March on Washington for GL rights. I edited one of the first positive books about bisexuality with contributions from self-identified bisexuals. (That was while living in the hostile territory of Cincinnati, not my current home of San Francisco.) I recently circulated a petition in favor of Proposition K decriminalizing prostitution. I’m openly poly. I attend (and throw) play parties. My boyfriend is a manager at a sex club. And on and on. I’ll put my credentials in this area against anyone’s.

    I also used to be the Executive Director for a (now-defunct) antispam organization. While there, I insisted that we NOT define spam by content, but rather by method. But whenever government acted, it had to do so in response to how *existing* laws were being broken. Government staffers, in short, can’t be an activist for future laws — that’s the job of the electorate and the elected.

    In this action, CL is going after the real problem — the devaluing of the site through automated spam. It’s focusing on the area where the problem is the worst, and where it can get government backup. Of course I’d like to see these rules applied throughout the site — and I believe we eventually will. But it has to start somewhere. Ironically, I recently complained to CL about spammers in a CL real estate board. I hope (and believe) that these actions will eventually help solve that problem, too.

    As for charging for erotic services listings: Suck it up. These are commercial messages, and CL is a privately owned service. Don’t like it? Go elsewhere. Your boycott is welcome.

    I’m also, BTW, a frequent browser and poster in Casual Encounters, and I’d welcome more posting restrictions (and fees) there. It would be worth it for the site to have value again. Don’t you think?

  49. private Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 9:38 pmIm an escort and I think the whole idea is just CRAZY, I have been in this business for 3-years and Craigs list isn’t the only place to advertise, so I guess myself and the other working girls will just pack up and move on. What we do is sometimes misunderstood and if you’re not in our shoes you dont know the whole truth, about what we do. And I have always thought that the government is against escorting in all 49 states except for Nevada, because they’re not making any money off of us. But this will totally not stop me from working, I love what I do and there is always a way to out smart L.E.
  50. sofia lopez Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 9:40 pmand how to pay for my post
  51. heather Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 9:48 pmI am just wondering how the flaggin will now work. Because I am not paying five bucks to have somebody flag me five minutes after it is posted. This seems pretty crazy. To pay for something that isn’t even guaranteed to get out to people….
  52. anonymous Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 9:55 pmI understand that child trafficking is an issue… but why is escorting such a crime? Companionship for consenting adults…?! This is silly
  53. ashley Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 9:56 pmi with the boycotting craigs list erotic service its against our rights and our privacy so im game for boycotting this site untill they change it back to the way it was before today.
    bye bye craigslist…………..
  54. Candy Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 10:07 pmits ok you can try to do what ever it is you would like to stop us from using erotic services all you are doing is pushing people to go back to dating ones and that on here where people do not wanna see us. why would we go pay $5.00 if we can post somewhere else on this site??? and why would we pay that because alot of these girls get jelouse and flag for no reason. so even if we dont post things we should not we will be waisting are money still on getting flagged
  55. life Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 10:15 pmWOW…craigslist is on some new and crazy things I see…working with the police setting people up,9really seting people up to make them looking like they doing more then massage…don’t get me wrong you do have full service girls but not all them are.. I know of a police officer who arrested a girl off craigslist and she also have recorded with a hiddin security camara, officer said she did oral sex when she really did a massage only, I seen the tape he was lieing his crooked ass off set the girl up like that….good luck craigslist for makeing the most stupit move on the net, one more thing mr. crook officer don’t know she was tapeing and at the front door of her place it also say its under 24 hour watch by security camara so she can use it in court,….but I bet you this people watch watch the stock market, craigslist going down, they will loose lots of users and money..I sell and buy from craigslist..I guest its back to the free sites…like ebay and myspace for erotic services….I’m done with this site 1 to many crazy rules, plus I’m not getting set up by the no good crook police officers special in illinois…..
  56. bryan Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 10:22 pmi think this is stupid a escort service is legal but now men are not going to post becouse they will be scared come on this is childish
  57. Not happy…. Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 10:24 pmWow, this is crazy….who would’ve thought you all would cave? That is ridiculous. I’m saddened by the fact that an honest working girl can no longer make money without giving up her annonymity. Most women who use the erotic section aren’t hurting anyone, they are just trying to support their families…..shame, shame
  58. life Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 10:32 pmyea I will put it out there craigslife is a deadsite now..and cant be trusted..and to seek a new site like myspace and ebay…guys I will open a site on the best sites to go to……I’m with the boycott…i’m done with this site…craigslist dont try to erce this message and find out wht I do…not ,my IP address and its a new email……
  59. L. Wolfe Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 10:35 pmSo Craigslist has buckled & become just another agent for a more & more repressive government. So now Craigslist is assisting law enforcement…. Isn’t it law enforcement’s job to enforce the laws? Craigslist used to be a place that promoted free speech & stood up to those who want to repress everything. Bye bye, to everything Craigslist stood for.  

    The saddest part is this will do nothing to stop the spam ads that have been ruining the Erotic section. They’ll continue to find ways around the blocks. They will use false information. This new change won’t effect them, but it will make the people who used to post, who followed the rules, think twice about using Craigslist.

  60. surprissed Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 10:39 pmSo much for our rights, this is how it happens. One small step at a time, our right to FREE SPEECH has just been slamed. I also am a provider here on CL, I offer nude massage, I pay my bills, my rent, buy my food and support my family from this income. With out it, we will likely be HOMELESS with in 60 days. I only have enough savings for that long, that is if I only pay the rent and power bill. I am blown away with this announcement. I have no idea how I am going to survive.
    THANKS CL.
    Bellingham
  61. life Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 10:43 pmsorry I gots to get my story right the crook officer said he asked for oral and he gave her $150, she took the money the took out his badge…when she told his she do not do any type of full service and u can here that on tape him to but not what he clamed court will see that…
  62. oh my god now i will starve Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 10:47 pmhow will i feed my family they should have posted a warning
    this is a sad day i hope some girl can make it we do not break the law
  63. Kimberley Thomas Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 10:51 pmI dont agree with this at all.. I don’t feel that this is a proper way run an online business to punish everyone for other people’s wrong doing. I am completely upset about this whole situation and feel that it should be reprimand immediately.
  64. kris Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 10:57 pmPersonally, I think its GREAT that CL is cooperating with law inforcement. There are a lot of scams and criminals out there taking advantage of people. I was robbed at gunpoint by someone (”Britanie” with Cyren Entertainment) posting an ad and I don’t want it (or something worse) to happen to anyone else.
  65. frequent user Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 11:01 pmi thin that its retarted for you to have to pay….
    do you no how many scams are going to follow this????
    how are you going to protect are credit card information??
    i think this is dumb and i will never use craigs list again.
    and as far as the erotic services they’ll just post some where else.
    the only reason all the people be on craigs list is for the eroctic services.
    its dumb and so is every one who supports it
  66. Paul Thomas Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 11:02 pmIt seems to me that it’s one thing to charge landlords and business owners a fee for posting, because these people all ready have the economic advantage in society. By stark contrast, the vast majority of people who make a few extra bucks by posting their (legal) services in the ES section are doing so out of economic necessity…it’s one way to stay afloat in a day and age when pay for a “real job” is stagnate and all other costs (rent, food, gas, other necessities) are continuing to rise.  

    Today’s press release claims that “phone verification resulted in an 80% reduction in ad volume, and significantly increased compliance with site guidelines.” If it was so successful, then why the need for these further measures?

    If one posts once every 48 hours, that means that the ad will cost $75 per month, which seems a bit excessive for an ad that may or may not result in much income. If one is spending $75 per month for an ad listing, one might expect that they would receive both (at least minimal) customer service as well as wide promotion to relevant audiences and potential clients to be included in that price. It doesn’t appear, though, that the additional cost is likely to result in any upgrade in the level of service provided by the website.

  67. jazzy Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 11:05 pmthis shit sucks
  68. TM Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 11:07 pmYou people are angry with CL for wanting to enforce the law?! Do you realize how pathetic that sounds? Whether you agree with prostitution being illegal or not is irrelevant – the fact is it is not legal. If you’re so concerned, fight to change the laws and quit whining. Then your precious erotic services will be back in force.
  69. Tosha Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 11:09 pmI dont think you should charge for the posting on erotic ads.
  70. Kevin Says: 
    November 6th, 2008 at 11:44 pmWhat a bunch of rotten smelly horse pucky…
  71. Ryan Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 12:06 amthis new 5 $ fee erotic service section has just destroyed my wife and my profession,we both do erotic massages and do not sell sex in any way.we post in erotic and i see all the prostitutes on there thats why we pay police isnt it so they can get out the doughnut shop and go investigate whos doin what with stings on cl erotic prostitutes. i live in michigan and here you dont have to have a massage liscense or place of bizness to do it if we do get certified its 2 years of classes and money ! they should make it esier for ppl like my wife and i to be legit and pay taxes for our massage work so they can get paid that way e bay owns 25 percent of craigslist and has now started their own rip off site no erotic secion from what i saw but i have read online they have one..where ohh where can us cl erotic service providers go to get work.beware if you do pay the 5 dolla fee its basically entrapment cuz they will have your info and be able to try to bust you for this B,S Crime.what a dissapointment guess ill be posting our ads in other sections of cl and competitor sites.seems like every 1 freedome we gain 10 more freedoms are taken away, i hope obama turns this slavery were all stuck in around.hope hes not the antichrist!
  72. lisa Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 12:15 amThis is sad, as an exotic dancer, with the economy as bad as it is, already, not making ends meet, and I work full time…no kids, and yes I have a college education. I now have to pay to use craigslist. DISAPPOINTING.  

    I will now steer all of my friends, family and acquaintances toward other sites. thanks alot netcops. i might as well move out of this communist country.

  73. Confused Citizen Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 12:15 amwith a section titled ‘erotic services’, why wouldn’t one assume that is a platform for to illicit sex? What exactly is an erotic service? It would be very helpful if craigslist would make it clear as to what is acceptable. Otherwise, why not just get rid of this section altogether? The newly implemented requirements will only lead a situation where those with good intentions will run into trouble with the law. Instead of involving law enforcement, the people at craigslist should have a better strategy for filtering out the unacceptable ads. It just sounds lazy on craigslist’s part.
  74. Colie Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 12:18 amIm sorry but this is just wrong yes its great cause it gets rid of the pimps and such. But was this not done to stop human trafficking and minnors being posted? Great so you have just pushed these people to the streets where is is completely unsafe AWESOME!  

    Im a escort my self and use craigs list. This is my only source of income. Im a escort because im trying to pay my way through college sense i have no other means to get into school. Im not a crack head, i dont do drugs, i rarely drink,no kids. Just a young girl trying to pay for her school.

    Im sorry but you guys have just shot your self in the foot with this.

    Maybe if you got some damn moderators on the site we would not have so many issues?

  75. kelley Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 12:22 amok the bottom line is craigslist wanted adult oreinted ads such as escorting
    which in geneal is pretty u borderline llegall why did their so called users want this ? money period you notice you dont see
    legal adult services entertainment such as adult webcams or movie sites which provide a safe outlet in a users home without going out
    getting robbed or worse. just a blantant attempt at free speech violation by craigslist and yes ive adverstised my adult website via ers for 3 yrs and
    i would gladly pay for adversting here but with their unfair flagging system no way will they get my
    cc info they should close the section all together
    or come up with fair policies for legal adult entertainment
  76. Max Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 12:28 amI’m a provider and i cannot believe that CraigsList is charging to advertise lying about giving 100% of the proceeds to charity! What charity?
    We’re just trying to survive through this tough economy, paying for university & bills as my day job doesn’t get me through the months.
    So many people believe in website & it seemed to allow people to be free in a place where police shouldn’t have the right to such personal info or details of trying to remain discreet & anonymous. THIS AN OUTRIGHT INTRUSION OF ONE’S HUMAN RIGHTS. Are the owners of CL just going to sit back and do nothing abt this and just collect money? I feel sad & betrayed by CL…o:(  

    WHY DON’T WE ALL BOYCOTT CL FOR A FEW DAYS AND SEE THE RESPONSE?
    IS ANY UP FOR THIS PROPOSAL? Responde by leaving a response!

  77. Bridgette/a> Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 12:30 amHmm..for those of us that are legitimate LMT’s this is going to kill the therapautics secion.
  78. Mike Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 12:30 amI think it’s fantastic. I post my 100% legal business in the Erotic Services section and the posting is pushed off the page in a matter of minutes from the flood of illegal posts. Get the sketchy prostitutes off the board and let it be what CL intended.
  79. Gabe Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 12:55 amI think its great myself. I tried getting a massage once just to find out that the person just wanted to “get in the sack” and it really annoyed me so much that I think I would rather get one of those electric stick on the chair back massage things.  

    I do think that it would be a great idea to implement one more ever so slight security feature. Dont know if its possible. Make craigslist one of those websites where you have to enter your ID from either your state ID or your drivers license (there the same) to age verify that you are even old enough to browse craigslist. After reading the extra long terms of service, I did specifically see that yes craigslist is not meant for anyone under I think it was 18. Why not implement a check page where you have to enter your state ID/license number BEFORE you can enter the website. Sounds simple enough. That way every time you visit theres nothing you have to worry about since you would have your name logged and IP address logged each time you visit. I would think it would stop almost all questionable garbage that I hear that happens due to the rude people that sometimes troll on craigslist.

    I love craigslist for bartering and buying and selling. Much better than eBay and even more better than using gas to drive to the flea market.

    Keep it up you folks who keep this site up and running! Hope you all figure out a interesting way to keep out the twits that can possibly ruin it for the rest of us!

    Westminster, Colorado

  80. randy Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 1:18 amI guess the question, is does prostition create anarchy? I have lived in other countries that it was socially acceptable. Europe. My gosh is someone want to fuck then let them have it , they will find it one way or the other and if they cant find it they will probably be go to nocking heads or cause all kinds of agression out. The romans did it all the time, why ,it worked, from my experience in mt , It may save a marriage. There are other things Montana should pay attention too. If a guy needs to go there than let it. Why not let it happen on craigs list, why get the Law envolved? Bust the bad stuff that fucks people up, a little healthy love does not mess people up, it makes them relaked. It seems like a easy one ,I lived in amsterdam, everyone so relaked. It really is a normal human function, look at the past history.Guys dont fight and rob banks and do destruciton when they have some love. so why go againts the grain of the past. it worked, pay attention to something that is truly hurting our society. best of luck
  81. P.I. TONY Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 1:24 amThis is proof that we have entered into a new world.. Be careful who and what you vote for. This just creates another unregulated pocket of illegal sex trading. This is going to divide 1 community into several underground societies.. I have only been using CL for 3 months but has been a help to my program.. But Thats Ok.. The Blocks are gonna be Packed now.. Remember i said it!! P.I. TONY
  82. Brittany Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 1:25 amthis is bullshit
  83. Disappointed Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 1:30 amSeriously?! First prop 8 passes in California, institutionalizing hate against already marginalized Americans, and now erotic services is discriminated against. So disappointing. I’m really sad that craigslist went the way of discrimination in this. I would understand if there was an across the board fee, but it’s only this particular service.  

    I also agree with John above, who said that posters will now go to other sections to post erotic services. I don’t like seeing things that don’t belong in the section I’m looking for something in, whether it’s under jobs or for sale. I think this is just going to increase the frequency of people being unable to find what they’re looking for on craigslist because the section is full of other unrelated posts.

    So disappointing.

  84. BIG MERM Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 1:31 amWell this just puts us back at Square 1. The girls that use CL are on the way BACK to the TRACK.. All the old Pimps that have a cell phone full of clients are back in Business.. All the RENEGADES are homeless now.. They used to be able to spend all the money, come home and post for free but now tht thats over.. Pimpin is BACK..
  85. mr lame Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 1:40 amI guess more people will be using prepaid credit cards. this solves nothing and does nothing but irritate the people who arent on there to cause trouble.
  86. Jones Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 2:16 amthe economy is bad as it is… why did you have to do it at this exact time??
  87. John Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 2:55 amThis is really stupid. The way EVERY assault on internet privacy and rights get’s started is some lame ass politician or district attorney up for re-election SCREAMING about Child Porn and Exploitation. It’s a feel good demagogic stance, that marginalizes service providers, drives them back into the domain of PIMPS… Now with the economy in the toilet, this may be the only thing that a women can do to stay off welfare and cover her rent.  

    If the police were serious about this, they could bust everyone on erotic services. Instead they’ve used public humiliation and embarrasement to have Craigslist do the job for them!!! How does it feel to be a SHILL for Law enforcement of Victimless crimes??

    Shame on CL for caving into the demogogary and puritanical “SIN BASED” morals of a deviant religious minority, all leading to victimization and exploitation of women/men trying to do the best they can.

    In case you didn’t notice, the conservative RIGHT WING just got trashed. Maybe it’s time for a new CEO at Clist as well.

  88. Starchild Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 2:59 amI have long applauded Craigslist for offering its erotic service forums and links to sex-positive sex work rights groups like Sex Workers Outreach Project and the Erotic Service Providers Union, and am very sad to see this happen. While giving net revenue from the ad fees to charity shows some good intent, I agree that it is caving in to the morality police. Besides, if the point of requiring a credit card is to increase accountability, why not just make the posting fee $.01 instead of $5.00, or $5/year instead of $5/post? The higher the fee, the higher the percentage of remaining advertisers are likely to be offering illicit services, since those services command higher rates than legal ones due to the black market created by their criminalization. Please reconsider this move and maintain your company’s reputation as a sex positive place to connect.
  89. Rob Pennypacker Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 3:33 amI think charging people is terrible and you are going to loses a lot of advertising now that you guys charge for the ads!!!
  90. Dmitri Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 3:54 amI do escorting. Professional. My friend does Welding. Professional. Both jubs require that a certain amount of knowledge is known and both jobs are available on CL. However, why am I being charged when he isnt?  

    Both of us make a profit. Both of us work for pay. There is no real difference between the two of us with the exception on how our income is generated. So do tell me why im being charged every time i wish to make a post?

  91. Don Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 4:02 amYour classified ads women for men will now be overwelmed.
  92. Michael McDermott Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 4:14 amJim, Why did you let those mf’s pressure you in doing this? If the police think a ad is illegal let them go after the poster. You have now opened up a new can of worms,they will stop at nothing now!
  93. kelley Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 4:30 amloved how you convientily didnt leave my comment up cenorship lives boycott this crap site!
  94. come on…really?? Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 5:10 amYou guys are going to far…working with the police? Where’s the privacy? Things are going to start feeling lonely around here. Everyone, stay away from CL. Ill never support it, ever again!
  95. LilaBaby Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 5:40 amWill anyone Let me Know where the next hotspot will be to advertise for free? I am sure that I am not alone in this venture.
  96. joanne Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 5:43 amerotic services is not for all, but, phone sex operators are LEGAL and LEGITIMATE erotic services, who have been the only ones shut out with the registered email proceedures, NOT the hookers, go figure!!
    why can’t craigslist make a page, same as every page but the location be ‘usa’
    meaning what ever is posted is offered all across the usa?
    this not only would help legal erotic service providers, but your tupperware ladies and avon ladies,,and much more.
    charge me 5.00, I dont mind, as long as my ad will stay, but, make YOUR job easier, and create ONE page location of usa.
  97. Mahogany Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 5:48 amI am glad to see that there are laws in place to protect children, however, I do not agree that Craigslist should impose such penalties on ALL of its erotic services. Why not create different categories (subdivisions) under erotics services and allow those women who desire a ‘category’ that does not allow or accept prostitution. I provide a service (bodyrubs) that has absolutely nothing to do with prostitution, but I have been linked with all of the other people who offer illegal services.  

    Food for thought… If men can not use the services that are advertised on CL, they will end up finding those same services on the street somewhere. This is problematic because of safety concerns such as robbery and assault, not to mention increases in the transmission of STDs/AIDS.

    To all of my clients in the MD/DC area…Look for my ad in eros.com that is soon to come. I will be leaving CL within a month. My number is the same.

  98. Dejayz Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 6:58 amI don’t have a problem with paying the $5 fee but lets say what happens if a competitor flags my ad and then I have to repost and it keeps getting flagged and I have to keep reposting say 3 times…for a total of 4 postings…does that mean everytime I repost I have to pay the $5?
  99. d.coelho Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 7:06 amWe have the C.I.A. the F.B.I. the N.S.A. and Now the newest Law Enforcement agency. Craigs List. Anyone in their right mind would run from the likes of this site. How dare you to come to the public like some puritan.The owner of this company has his balls in a vice and lets hope the people speak out about the constitutional violations and squeeze real hard.It is one thing to protect children and other forms of exploitation but c/l has opened a can of worms here that will surely bite them in the ass. Hopefully class action suites,and other legal actions will deplete their resources and sink them.It would be poetic justice.I encourage anyone whos information is shared by craigs list, personal/financial etc, to file a suite if anything to hit them where it hurts in the pocket.
  100. michael dyal Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 7:11 amAs an erotic services advertiser and provider I say, yes, finally! Let’s get rid of the garbage, trashy ads by making them pay and free up visibility for those of us who are legitimate. Way to go Craigslist and I will gladly pay $5 to advertise!
  101. merkong Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 7:17 amnice work… freedom isn’t about having a venue provided to break the law. Most of them hoochies in the CL erotic services section are diseased thieves looking to wreak havoc. See ya hoes.
  102. goldie Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 7:22 amdoes this mean we still get flagged?
  103. Dave Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 7:28 amThis creates a monster. There are already escort ads in other sections of Craigslist. Essentially, the whole thing just went in to an uncontrolable tailspin. If you’d just left it alone you would have at lease known what you had.
  104. Lauren Stephens Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 7:31 ami wish you would do something about all the fraudulent posting in the computer services section also! tons of companies posting everywhere claiming they are local by using remote forwarded telephone numbers! then they post the same ads in every major city!
  105. struggling mother of 2 Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 7:46 amI am a struggling mother of two. My husband died 4 months ago and I moved to RI. I was a supervisor for my company and I had just bought a condo & a brand new car. Soon after I moved my company lost one of its biggest accounts and 40 of the employess got laid off including myself. I got into a serious car accident 1 week later and my car flipped over on the highway. I was at a complete loss. What was I to do with a brand new condo 2 children no car no job and no support system. Welfare was not an option. So I posted on erotic services. And I had an overwhelming reponse. And believe me I looked for a job. THERE ARE NO JOBS BY THE WAY…. ANyways Ill get to the point. For the past 2 months I have had enough money to pay my bills, support my children, and go back to school. Craigslist has given me the oppurtunity to better the lives of myself & my children. These are actions between 2 consenting adults. And yes I believe exploting minors and human trafficking is completely wrong. And it needs to be stopped. But how about those of us that aren’t hurting anyone? I consider myself a good person & a good mother. No I didnt picture myself doing this but I am and its not hurting anyone. ANd when I graduate from school Im not going to look back. Im just letting the people out there know & understand a lot of us have a family to support in a state where there are no jobs and not many options. So I end this with I dont agree with the decisions these people are making I believe there are much bigger fish to fry then to monitor craigslist ads all day & I feel sorry for them.
  106. Tara Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 7:50 amWell I must say. This has motivated me to actually go out and look for a bartending job while pursuing my acting and writing craft. Honestly I’ve been comfortable with doing just this for too long to make “ends meat” no pun inteneded. I have two interviews today at a bar and restaurant since I learned of this yesterday.  

    Since I never had a pimp or a drug problem I can move forward. For me this is a blessing in disguise.

    The phone number thing was teetering on boundry time for me but for me it’s just not worth attaching my name to my CC card and all that for me.For some girls fine but it’s time for me to shake up some martinis instead. Thanks CL for the extra push in another direction

  107. stephanie Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 7:51 amI am an escort as well, and I am also VERY displeased with craigslist trying to shut down “crime” on thier website. I have been using craigslist to advertise my services since I have been in business, always pleased that I could post for free, since other erotic service advertising is relatively expensive… Providence and Boston Pheonix charge over $200 per ad.
    I do understand that craigslist doesnt want children exploited, and I respect that.
    I just have a note: if I am paying for these ads, why are they still subject, then, to flagging? If I am paying you for advertising, and any random joe (or usu a fellow escort trying to make her ads stand out) can just delete my shit, why would I continue to pay and post with you?
    I am also boycotting craigslist, at least until they learn how to do business.
  108. Lorrie Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 7:57 amThis is just another way for the big company to get richer. BOYCOTT CRAIGSLIST.
  109. anna Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 7:59 amyou puttin up prices is not helping anyone make any money
  110. anna Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 8:03 amhow could you do this to the people that come to craigslist. everyone has their own reason for doing what they do and giving the police the right to know information is wrong. i’m so disappointed in all of you.
  111. HAPPY ENDINGS DOC Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 8:09 amI have done a documentary on Rhode Island’s legal prostitution. Every spa in RI uses Craig’s List for advertising, and it is legal. I urge everyone to take a look at the web site and trailer on youtube. See one state where the activity is legal and make a decision for yourself. Hear from the women who are “behind closed doors”. Watch the fight for and against prostitution laws.
    http://www.happyendingsdoc.com
    http://happyendingsdoc.wordpress.com
    http://www.youtube.com/happyendingsdoc
    http://www.myspace.com/happyendingsdoc
  112. STEVE Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 8:21 amHOW SAD THIS IS. I USE TO LOVE CRAIGSLIST. BUT NOW I WILL JUST TELL ALL MY FRIENDS NOT TO TRUST THEM ANYMORE. NEVER GIVE INFO TO THE POLICE. WHO KNOWS HOW FAR THIS WILL GO.
  113. Fantasy Ova King Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 8:22 amI am a Prostitute in Norfolk, Va and Craigslist is how I pay my bills. Now that they have decided to charge 5.00 per ad, I don’t know how I am going to live and take care of myself. I wish they would just leave us prostitutes alone….if we want to suck dick, eat ass, get fucked, and fuck niggas, its our choice! I am sick and tired of the bs in the commonwealth!
  114. Michelle Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 8:23 amDamn guy’s this is bullSh*t.I am an escort and single mother and this is how i provide for myself and kids.Now i have lost everything recently and trying to keep a room and food for me and my kids is hard enough yet now i cant even make any money.And these so called charities that are supposed to help are all full of themselves.So escorting is how i survive right now.And now you want to police the ERS.If you are so involved in eliminating illegal services,then answer this,WHY DO YOU HAVE AN EROTIC SECTION?Dont invade our lives and prevent us from doing what we do.Get rid of it if you say you care about illegal activities.Answer is you just want to use us to make you pockets fatter thats all.I mean come on “Buckmaster”stop spending your income on us and maybe you would have money.DONT HAVE AN EROTIC SECTION IF YOU DONT WANT THESE ACTIVITIES ON YOUR WEBSITE.Its all about the money thats all.Stop telling us lies.And 5.00 per ad!! Come on there are places to advertise for for unlimited ads for $35.00.You have just screwed your own business.Go to eros.com guys and get what you need or many other websites.
  115. Michelle Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 8:24 amAND DONT TRY AND NOT POST MY AD AS I WILL SUE YOU FOR VIO;ATING MY FREEDOM OF SPEECH
  116. pjk Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 8:25 amwow, must we all move to nevada , i strongly disagree with this recent action and wholeheartedly would love to rid the world of people who expliot children. however the adults of the world who are not hurting or bothering anyone will forever be persecuted by those who have no reason to intrude on someones private life. see ya in vegas
  117. kandy Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 8:25 ami hate backpage.com and now cl asks us to pay $5 to post, wonder how long this will last? I am soooo pissed off!! CL has so many issues getting your pic to show, and get a good post, I better not get ripped off, I hope there is someone to contact if I have a problem, thus far, there is no #er to call for help, I will just be S.O.L!!!
    -Good Luck girls!!
  118. Dopey Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 8:25 amYou made a name for yourselves, then went and screwed the entire public charging for postings. I knew it was a matter of time, though come on. First it was, give us your telephone number to verify an account (which I am sure is not only for statistics, though now to give to law enforcement), Now you expect people to pay for postings as well. We’ll see.  

    Remember there are so many geniuses out there (and I know a lot of them) who can build and host a website just like Craigslist and very simply make Craigslist extinct. Once word gets out that Craigslist is doing people wrong, well blame yourselves.

  119. Robyn Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 8:32 amLet’s look at what’s really going on! This whole new safety effect is not what so ever about cleaning up craigslist and making it safe! It’s all about money. The erotic services section is a huge $$ making business and being it is legal behind closed doors in RI, why the …. are we users being charged for it. And if you must charge, why are you people demanding our personal credit card info with no other alternitive to posting. This is nuts and it’s WRONG! CL acts like you don’t want us providers here posting. You make it so hard with all the phone verifying, flagging, suspended accounts and now you want daily access to our credit cards? Guess it’s time to send my loyal customers else where to access my adds. I hope everyone else does so as well. Iv’e been on here for over a year now and I’ve seen some crazy actions take place by cl. But this by far is the dumbest move you guys ever made. SO LONG CL. I hope you and the attorney general are very happy on your empty board together.
  120. Robert Callert Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 8:44 amThis is nothing but a bunch of hyped up crap. I have sorted through the erotic services section for years as a hobby. NEVER ONCE have I seen a poster who appeared to be underage. one time about a year ago I did see one pervert advertising for girls under 18 I flagged the ad and forwarded the link to police department in the jurisdiction where the ad had originated. (Phoeniz,Az) if you listen to this crap you would think that hundreds of underage girls are posting on here on a daily basis and craigslist is a hotbed for child sexual activities. WHAT A BUNCH OF CRAP !! as a father of two pre-teen girls I would notice something like that in a heartbeat. I have however seen hundreds if not thousands of ad’s for drugs and girls hinting they will trade sex for drugs. nothing is said of this.
    just another hyped up excuse to violate peoples privacy rights, thats how i see the whole issue.
  121. Lori Star Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 8:48 ami am very happy with Craigslist.
  122. Try To Make A living Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 9:05 amWhat about the ones that keep flagging the ads for no reason other then keep you off CL so they will get more work. Will the poster have to pay another fee to repost even if there ad followed all the CL rules?
  123. Sara Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 9:10 amHmm, so if we post an ad in certain sections and as long as the ad is not illegal then I take it, it will not be flagged? Paying $5.00 to post and have your ad flagged when it meets requirements is BS. Will I get a refund if I post and my ad is flagged? I doubt it.  

    Sara

  124. Mark Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 9:17 amRight on Bob F, I join your boycott.  

    Blumenthal: “Requiring phone numbers, credit cards and identifying details will provide a roadmap to prostitutes and sex clients – so we can track them down and lock them up.”

    Pathetic that…

  125. Teresa M. Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 9:19 amIt’s about time someone made Craigslist step up and take notice of these things! I for one am hoping and praying that they will now also step up and do something about the bestiality ads. In most states, California included, there are laws governing and prohibiting bestiality. It is animal abuse only equalled by Michael Vick’s dog fighting ring and the poeple partaking in this behavior have no clue, no idea of what it is doing to their pets! Exploiting animals in this manner, just as evil in my opinion as these other horrible exploitations that CL has now agreed to take a stance against.
  126. Jenna Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 9:21 amI have not bought minutes for my phone—-this must be why I cannot even log in to CL to post an ad—-and now it will cost money to post in the erotic section—-just another way to hurt the economy overall. And I cannot believe CL is doing this. Furthermore, I have never read any ads that exploit children on CL. I used to think it was the best site but certainly do not anymore. I am not a hooker but provide foot fetishes. However I am not going to pay to post an ad so CL can kiss my ass and the person who posted about letting law enforcement get all involved is correct. They are often the real crooked bastards.
  127. Jenna Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 9:23 amP.S. Since law enforcement places ads on CL, posing as hookers, etc to entrap, I suppose the taxpayers will be footing the $5.00 fees bills! Too much!
  128. Jennifer Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 9:30 amWow! So Craigslist finally sold itself out to the feds! Now us escorts have to find another place to advertise and probally won’t be able to pay our bills now because 70%-80% of our business was from CL. I also used CL for a variety of other services, not just my business, but now I will definately not be comming back. I’m in shock….how shady of you guys! Freedom of speech just doesn’t exsist anymore it apparently! F**k you guys!
  129. Dan Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 9:31 amSad Sad Day. F-In Obama
  130. Mistress Quintessa Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 9:31 amHey, i agree with carmen, and some of the others, i work with community and youth outreach, i also run a network online for the prevention of raped and abused weomen and children(and some services for men) so i know how much of a problem it is and how often these things happen, i myself have been ubducted on multiple accounts as a child and an adult, but in my private life, i am an escort, who has been providing legal services for a long time, and i dont facilitate anything, they pick me up and we go to an event or something, then go back to thier place and watch a movie, i am a temporary companion, for events, not “the event of the day”, the money i make from escorting, pays for my food, since i cant find a job in the county im in, if your so worried about human or child trafficing, then have some craigslist staff reply and lead people on for a while but not the police, cause if they misinterpret something, theyll toss people away and well just be a number in a cell, till the trial, where we explain what we do and how they twisted our words into something else, and alot of us lose clients because the word police got tosed around, and we can no longer support ourselves. we all have our ways to live and eat, that is mine. i at one time worked with a junion secret service for another country(an ally of america) and we sat down and replyed to ads on sketchy websites, but is craigs list sketchey, besides all the crack and meth*******(weomen) in my county that ask for money when you reply, then there isnt really anything bad going on, but check in the for sale ads, for certain keywords, like snow, or crystals, or anything that says organic hemp or herbs.
  131. Sean Mc Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 9:44 amLet me just start out by saying that I am not only friends with several escorts that post in the ERS section, I am the significant other to an escort who uses this site for her work. It makes me sick to think that the “last frontier” of internet ad posting has now gone to the wayside. CL has always been know to, not only the escorts, but to everyone as the place to find ANYTHING you want. I whole heatedly agree about the stopping of child exploitation and “human trafficking”, however, being a computer programmer myself, I know that there are alternatives that need be explored on a software level. Is this just the easiest way out or what? I would think that 40 million visitors a month would encourage management to implement something other than the typical “porn site fee” of $5 to join. Although my experience maybe limited in the credit card verification system as well as phone verification, it is my understanding that all that needs to be done is purchase a prepaid Visa or MasterCard from the gas station along with a wally world $20 phone and your anonymity is back in full force. In other words, all you have done is weed out the people that AREN’T criminals because you’ve created a hassle for them. An example of this is my significant other and I wont be using your site any longer. If I am going to pay for an ad, it sure as hell isn’t going to be on a site that encourages the criminals to use credit card fraud and builds new loop holes to ensure the authorities will not catch the people you claim to be “weeding” out.
  132. Lisa Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 9:48 amJust another way for Big Brother to watch over us (or should I say spy on our private lives)!!! Way to go…let’s give big brother AND government even MORE control over our lives!!! Freedom?!?! Yeah right…what is that anymore?????!!!  

    There are other sites to post on…and in my opinion…this is no big loss to me…..

    Bye-Bye.

  133. Jim Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 9:54 amBoycott Craigslist!
  134. HAPPY ENDINGS DOC Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 9:54 amI have done a documentary on Rhode Island’s legal prostitution. Every or almost every Asian Massage parlor in RI uses Craig’s List for advertising, and it is legal. I urge everyone to take a look at the web site and trailer on youtube. See one state where the activity is legal and make a decision for yourself. Hear from the women who are “behind closed doors”. Watch the fight for and against prostitution laws.
    http://www.happyendingsdoc.com
    http://happyendingsdoc.wordpress.com
    http://www.youtube.com/happyendingsdoc
    http://www.myspace.com/happyendingsdoc
  135. josh Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 10:02 amPlease! please! everyone! Boycott Craigslist
  136. Eve Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 10:03 amAnd the sad thing is haters can still flag you eventho you are paying.Craiglist get your fucking mind right.I can understand if cl actually look into the flags b4 takin people pics down….Get Real
  137. Mickey Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 10:13 amThank you! I don’t think people realize that many of these sites are used by sex trafficers of minors. These are young people stolen and forced into the sexual acts. I am grateful for this position you have taken. I will use Craigs List in the future due to your recent position.
  138. *****SOLIDGOLD ESCORTS***** Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 10:14 amWOW!THIS IS A SAD DAY ! !MOST GIRLS AND COMPANIES LIKE MY OWN ARE DOING EVERYTHING LEGAL AND IS CRAZY THAT A COUPLE PEOPLE ARE RUINING THIS FOR EVERYONE THAT IS TRYING TO WORK HARD TO SURVIVE!THIS IS A GREAT SITE AND WILL HURT A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING IT BY THE BOOK!AND THAN AGAIN MAYBE THIS WILL HELP ME AND THE SERVICES THAT ARE DOING IT RIGHT!
  139. Brian Hogg Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 10:15 amGreat work. I think (and hope) this will serve as a model for other advertising sites worldwide.
  140. Rose Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 10:20 amwill the ads still be flagged? I post regularly in Sarasota/Bradenton ES and the ads are flagged within an hour by someone zealous. You said 100% of the profits from ES are going to charities? Why not hire someone to stop all this over zealous flagging that’s making business impossible for us legit providers? Domination is perfectly legal in my state yet I can’t hold an ad up. I’m about to put up my first $5 ad, but I have to say that I am GRAVELY disappointed that CL is charging us money in order to make it easier to get arrested. I have been saying for weeks that CL will start charging for erotic services, but I never imagined it was just so they could share my credit card information with the police. I guess I really thought craigslist was something it’s not. That’s as nice as I can possibly put it.
  141. nikki Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 10:21 amthis is a bunch of crap why would you do this i guess imma start putting muh ad under something else…
  142. Tom FromMYSPACE Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 10:28 amNow the whores will all just post in Casual Encounters an will add $$$ in the ads. Trust me CL isnt the only site that they advertise on. I say watch out for the Casual Encounter section fellas.
  143. Richard Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 10:34 amSadly, the masses are simply cows, unable to show enough backbone to stand for anything. In this as in all else they bitch and moan while merely lining up for the slaughter.
    Vote with your dollars, vote early, vote often. But no, every union member still shops at Walmart becasue it is cheaper, they’ll complain about it not being union but they won’t pay a few cents more to shop at a union grocery.
    How many of us have shopped for aproduct and purchased from the store that was least helpful to save a couple of bucks, while eltting the business owner that committed time and effort to help you gets nothing?
    Hate the service at McDonalds? Why do you go Back!!!
    But the food is cheap, and there is that play area.
    Complain that Carigslist won’t stand up to those mean guys, but wht about you? When did you stand up last?
  144. John Taylor Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 10:35 amI like the idea of donating the fee to charity – great idea CL !
  145. Seeking freedom Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 10:35 amWell here is one more civil wright shot to hell..Its police list to me for now on .
    I would post on here from time to time and found that this was an easy way for law enforcement to stalk me.I was stalked by police on my phone as they called to entrap me
    to say something that they felt was illegal .They have it easy all they have to do is call all the people listed and hope someone says some thing wrong and they will be there that day. I heard there is a great country to go to where we loose our son’s dad’s daughter’s moms and so on for freedom. We have fought for wrights all over the world but not hear at home. What was the name of it?……….Afghanistan that’s it !!!! it’s happening slowly to us now. Congratulations
  146. Richard Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 10:35 amMy spelling was terrible, sorry.
  147. Christy Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 10:38 amBoycott Craigslist!
  148. grapeshoe Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 10:39 amIf i’m not mistaken our “proctors” are the ones responsible for Iraq and our national financial crisis-More government intervention;really?-It’s funny how insidious Socialism can overtake democracy. Stalin would be proud.
    ps—-I do not condone breaking the law–especially as it regards human traffiking and children exploitation-so please don’t misinterpret my sarcasm—- but really, doesn’t it seem like it’s the fox guarding the henhouse?
  149. beginning of end Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 10:39 amDid Craigslist transparently request suggestions from the community to resolve this alleged issue? or is this a result of secret discussions with the A.G. s?  

    Whenever one hears ‘it’s for the children’ one should be suspicious – just how many children were clearly exploited here and will this completely stop it? How far are we going to go to protect children among other values in our society?

    We still allow children to go to Catholic services even with the long history of abuse.

    Don’t let them play outdoors – they might get picked up by strangers or hit by a car

    Unfortunately Craisglist appears to have done this for financial reasons and arranged in secret which is very telling.

  150. I’m a provider that will nevr be onhere again.. Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 10:47 amwhoa, nice job CL . I am a provider that ia a vet . I’m 23 and I’m not on drugs, never have been never will,I’m educated and working a legit job TOO . This is really sad . I thought of all places hobbyist and providers could come here . I also post on Eros and cityvibe and TER but, for newbies who don’t know abou those sites CL WAS great daily. Underage girls,pimps,drug dealers yes, get them off of here but, NO I would never provide my info. when the police could eventually get it ! SEE YA !
  151. Cameron Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 10:50 amI think this is crap, but if you do have to pay 5.00 per post, then I think that the general population should not be able to flag the ad that I just paid 5.00 for. I understand that we want to illiminate underage sex prisoners and sex workers, but this really isnt the way to go about it in my opinion its a violation of privacy and a way to make money.
  152. Faith Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 10:56 amthis is a sad day.I will not pay to post the samething I’ve posting for almost a year.
    There are too many free sites I can go to.
    I never this site would cave and give in to LE.Another way for the police and our goverment to make money and involve them selves in everyone elses business.
  153. nik nak Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 11:04 amfucking sellouts why don’t u charge for adult gigs too its the same thing oh but thats better cause it’s on film craigs list is played out anyway the clients only pay 100$ any way not worth it to pay for advertising and other people can flag u i got better things to do with my money and only advertised here cause it was free anyway….my freedom of speech is fuck craigslist and the police kiss my fat ass………i’m moving to europe where they are more open minded for a free country we can’t do shit anymore soon it will be illegal to fart in public it’s sad really really sad……..
  154. Angel Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 11:06 amI was informed by this information from a good friend. It is sad to say that Independent Men and Women Who Practice Will Not Have The Freedom To Continue There Work And Will End Up Out On The Street!  

    If We Unite Together And Become Liberated To Practice Safe Sex And Keep Our Families From Welfare. Who Are U To Judge Me?

  155. Lisa Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 11:13 amI AM SOO DISAPPOINTED THAT YOU ARE NOW TRYING TO CHARGE PPL TO POST AN AD IN THE EROTIC SECTION! I WILL GUARANTEE YOU THAT YOU WILL NOW START TO LOOSE 90% OF THE PPL THAT HAVE LOVED USEING CRAIGSLIST FOR SO LONG!! THIS IS TOTALLY OUTRAGIOUS!! I CAN’T BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE GOTTEN SO GREEDY!! I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED IN YOU FOR THIS!! I AM SURE I SPEAK FOR ALOT OF PPL!! THANKS FOR NOTHING!!!!
  156. Barely Legal Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 11:28 amYep…Bye bye craigslist!! We will still run our business..just advertise else where..like yellow pages dot com, or super pages, or every where but here
  157. Robert T. Says: Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 11:42 amGreed, Greed, Greed.  

    I knew that Craigslist would eventually come to this.

    Making excuses just to make a buck.

    I too wish that everyone would join the Craigslist boycott.

  158. Heaven Tylor Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 11:50 amI have to say that I am rather disappointed. I am a porn star who used to use ERS to post that I was looking for work. I am also a companion. I offer compaionship to those who are lonely and in need of company. It is sad. But as a woman over 18 I believe that it should be my right and my choice to do with my body as I see fit as long as I am not hurting anyone.
    There are so many public figures who use escorts.. Judges, lawyers, DEA, FBI and police offers who come to Escorts. I am horrified that our goverment thinks they have a right to say that WOMEN can not do what they want with their bodies. I swore we lived in a FREE WORLD! I Guess not. How do people expect women who can not work, and have a family to support make a living without living off Welfare?
    They have taken away from our right as women. They are trying to pry themselves in something that should not concern them.. I am not out selling kids, trafficing women, selling drugs, murdering people or better yet RAPE! Rape is huge sex crime in our society. And what are we doing to protect the rights of innocence?
    This is horrible. I still can not believe that a site for so long was a place for freedom of speech has turned to this.
    GOOD LUCK
  159. KrisEllen Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 12:03 pmAs with all shining beacons of hope and empowerment things change. It is a sad fact that fear based choices have ruled in our society for a long time. CL was a place to offer Freedom of Speech and Responsible Adult choice.
    I am very sad to learn that you have chosen to cave into the fear based choices of society and not continue to fight for every persons right to choose. I understand that with the law enforcement crack down and your growth your service was on the front lines.  

    I am a educated, empowered woman who chooses the profession of healer and sensual artist. There are some cases of human trafficking but it is a excuse. An excuse to limit our freedom of expression and choice. Please reconsider your position. You have been such a light for so long. As Gaundi says it is only with compliance that we can allow our freedoms to be taken away.
    Be well.

  160. pity… Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 12:10 pmwell thats the opening for the whitch hunt season,well girls lets add somewhere else…since more than 2000 years ago we being hunted,when its gonna be over???
  161. Eric Heart Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 12:12 pmI honestly think it’s bullshit.  

    Everyone will become a sell-out I’m coming to realize. You get so used to how things work, and even become a fan of it. And then they add in their little hidden fees, to do something that used to be free.

    I just think that craigslist really made a mistake by giving into the pigs. And this website is probably going to lose it’s touch now!?

    Cheers to going over the deep end!

  162. kim Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 12:13 pmso if you pay people cant not flag your ad now
  163. slosh415 Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 12:16 pmI support sex workers in principle and I wish the laws were different. But they aren’t. I don’t think CL would have done this if the state AGs didn’t have a case. So it’s disappointing, but it is in the best interests of the vast majority of CL users who won’t be affected by this policy but who would be affected if the case went to court and CL lost.  

    Also, re: the Nigerian scammers. Just because CL hasn’t figured out how to prevent that illegal activity doesn’t mean that they shouldn’t prevent any illegal activity. You’ve gotta start somewhere.

  164. China Girl Private Masseuse Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 12:16 pmI’m very surprised by the stance Craig’s List has chosen. I’m a private masseuse working out of the Palm Springs, CA area. I’ve been flagged off numerously by the “Therapeutic” section for the simple fact that I’m not a prude. I’m willing to offer the type of massage they are not. I’ve been called names and even received hateful posts regarding my ads. I was forced to advertise in the “Erotic” section because of the un-ethical narrow minded conservatives. Now you are forcing people who are open minded to pay a fee in order to express themselves! What happened to free enterprise? What happened to freedom of speech? What happened to “thou shalt not judge!” It seems the ones preaching it is always the ones judging everyone!  

    I was under the impression that Craig’s List was an open forum for those to share and gather different perspectives. Especially those who think on the fringe of society or outside of the box. Everyone has the choice to read or not to read a section. Everyone has a choice to not use a service. Why would you block those who do from accessing the information. How is anyone going to share and gather different perspectives if you only allow the narrow minded conservatives to post? They will post for free and flag anyone or anything they don’t agree with! Is that fair?

    I thought we had finally matured as a society. We finally broke through the taboo of having a black president. We then shut down gay marriages because some people needs to feel secure in knowing that their straight marriages are somehow special! Now we are also going to circle our wagons to protect the perceived notion of marriage being sacred and prostitution is a danger to that institution! How pathetic is that?

  165. Nicole K Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 12:34 pmTo Whom It May Concern..
    This is just plain right rediculous…
    I am a private adult provider in the erotic section.. which I am hesitant of using anyway because YOU allow people to come in and delete our ads and accounts.. It should be a company decision to delete somebodies post not fellow users!!! If you don’t want such an erotic listing on your site then you need to just delete it all together…duh… what’s the point in having it now??? I don’t mind paying for my advertisement, but you need to do better in protecting our ads rather than just taking our money.. The only reason you are teaming up with the police is because of the wrap that this site gets in the media… This is a disgrace to you, and your company… Obviously the POLICE is your only concern.. I’ve tried emailing you several times about disputes that I have had with using this site but I have never received one response, not one call back.. NOTHING… it’s us YOUR CUSTOMERS who make your site what it is… but now I don’t think you will have much of a market left… god bless
  166. Kristenye Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 12:35 pmI think Craigslist is now no better than a PIMP. Basically your pandering because your asking an escort to give you a small fee to do what shes going to do anyways regardless of if you ask for a number of ad a $5.00 fee for her to post an ad. Your not cracking down on nothing your just attracting classier escorts and prostitutes who have credit cards.
  167. Nicola Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 12:38 pmThis is crazy. what is wrong with a single nursing school mother selling some of her time to a loney man?!?! How many cases of child prosition have acually happend?! Whenever I meet a person they make me show them my drivers liscense to insure im acually 19! I am very upset about this and yes they are just going to post elsewhere on craigslist making it difficult for people to keep it organized, very very stupid move craigslist you will lose SO many customers
  168. EroticServicesProvider Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 12:38 pmCL has a different agenda than the Attorney General & the NCMEC.
    CL is chasing down ‘posting services’-companies/people that charge a fee to SPAM CL with the same ad over and over all day. If you’ve been to erotic services, you’ve seen it-probably even flagged it.
    The people who paid a posting service to spam CL are going to pay $5 to post their ad…so what’s changed?  

    The Attorney General and NCMEC are chasing down child pimps and traffickers. Those people should be chased to the ends of the earth. No one should be forced in this business. Children have no place in erotic or adult situations.

    If you read the entire article, it was quite clear a subponea would be required to gain access to that information. CL is willing to play ball by requiring a credit card to ensure those posting in erotic services are adults-but they aren’t willing to give up that info without a subponea. That doesn’t look like caving to anything to me.

    Honestly I think CL should start charging for ALL service categories.

  169. pat Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 1:08 pmcaveat emptor used to be the standard for transactions of any kind-one had to understand the reality of what he/she sought to buy-and no government could regulate human stupidity, wherein folks who didn’t belong in the transaction still acted foolishly. This new structure of yours is transparently letting the thought/religious police enter yet another of our protected areas. The Puritans are alive and getting nosy and noisy- not a good thing …. craigs list is in need of a backbone transplant, quickly…
  170. Johnny Rocket Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 1:31 pmJust great! You have now taken udults that went somewhere for human touch or sex, because they obviously needed an outlet and put them praying on children in schools in parks. What exactly do you think the millions of EROTIC users will do, stop having sex.
  171. Craig Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 1:37 pmThis sucks!!!
    And look at everyone that agrees!!!
    It was a great place to meet girls and guys – and now it will be just like other sites that suck or that you have to pay- Plus the girls will have to pass it on to the customers so prices of services will go up!!
    Go back to FREE posting!!!!
    The phone verification is good enough!!
    Craigs list used to be great but now it sucks!!
    You guys just jumped the Shark!!
  172. Johnny Rocket Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 1:39 pmJust great! You have now taken udults that went somewhere for human touch or MINORITY for sex, because they obviously needed an outlet and put them praying on children in schools in parks. What exactly do you think the millions of EROTIC users will do, stop having sex.  

    SAY NO TO INTERNET POLICE!

  173. Craig Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 1:39 pmAlso it doesn’t make anything safer!!
    Girls used to have to work on the streets which is way more dangerous where they get robbed and harrassed by pimps or they have to go to a dirty agency and give half the hard earned money for the advertising.
    The free posts on CL made things safer as a whole for the girls.
    Sell outs!!!
  174. Michelle Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 1:42 pmI have to say, come on everybody, stop dissin my man Craig. He is not greedy, he could charge at this point for EVERYTHING, but only charges big companies in big cities for certain things. He has helped me find jobs and free stuff and rentals all for free for years ( friends too) ! Give him some credit!!!  

    You know the cops were on his back, because stupid people were mentioning CL on all the daytime court shows and Springer everytime there was a not so smart call girl….I am surprised the cops didn’t come down on CL til now. They have to do what they have to do to stay in business. It was not CL’s choice. So pay the 5 bucks and now you have less competition…

  175. Name required? Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 1:44 pmWhy do you require this to publish opinions?  

    What else do you have in store, CL?

    Mail will not be published, you say; but will it be shared, will it be used; with whom and by whom and for what?

    You f’n collaborators.

  176. KISS MY ASS AND GOODNITE Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 1:46 pmFUCK CL FUCK THE PLOICE AND KISS ASS IM TAKIN MY BIDNESS ELSE WHERE
  177. Naomi Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 2:00 pmI think that this is a good thing but at the same time this is bull shit because i have some much to pay for already now i have to pay an extra 5 buck per posting that is crap. Business isn’t that good anyway.
  178. JamieKay Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 2:08 pmI read everyone’s replys and it suprises me how many people complain about this new policy fringing on their “Freedom” and “Privacy” and whatever else. The way I see it, if you have Nothing to hide then you shouldn’t be worried about this. I wish Craigslist would do this in the “Personals” section as well because there are SO many ads that are Illegal in most states that are being posted every day and they are also against the TOU! For instance there are Numerous ads with Nude pictures, against the TOU, there are Numerous ads wanting to have sex with Animals, Illegal in most states AND against the TOU and Many Many Many more different type ads that are Illegal AND against TOU. If people were following the Laws AND the TOU, then craigslist wouldn’t have to do any of this, so alot of you have no one to blame but yourselves.
  179. Vice Cop Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 2:12 pmQuit your whining… Go to a bar you “enthusiast or hobbiest” and work those skills… Im sure you could take something home,,, yea right. Keep smoking your pot and hope that its legalized… yea right. Im sure your wife would be pissed to find out youve been pulling out 200 from the ATM to get laid by one of these girls… Legalize it.. That will help..right And that “two consenting adult crap….Blah…Blah..” What ever… Craigslist erotic service section is just as dumb as the women that post.. Ha,,Ha now they have to pay. Move to San Fran and hope they decriminalize it,, with all the liberals there, they still couldn’t do it… Thanks for all the arrests you have given me!! Keep them coming.
  180. ms.jackpot Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 2:14 pmI have to say that I am rather… Everyone will become a sell-out I’m coming to realize..disappointed.
  181. Dave Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 2:16 pmHey, for all you providers out there. The $5 isn’t huge by any means, its the giving up of information that’s risky. Not that you want to have to pay the money, but in the end its relatively minor. As for the rest, there’s always pre-paid phone and pre-paid debit cards. Maybe I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure you could use those and still protect your personal info. Anybody know any different on that?
  182. Just Me Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 2:18 pmBy your own public/press statement, your efforts were working.  

    Now, you’ve driven anyone who does engage in the heinous crimes you purport to be attempting to foil to other, unknown areas of the web.

    Well done.
    Good luck combating them now.

    I don’t even want to start on what I think of your attack on personal liberties.

  183. SBJ Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 2:43 pmI think it’s good that something is being done, I do think that the fear of being flagged could be real. The one good thing about it that I do like is that you are stopping the services that charge people to post for them over and over again. I don’t realy like the credit card thing, but I’d rather money be going to charity than to the people who are taking advantage of the terms of use in that way. I think it would work even better if you had a varification system to make sure that each and every person who posts really does only post once a day.
  184. SELENA SUPASTAR Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 3:02 pmOMG !!  

    THIS IS SUCH A HUGE TOPIC! LOL I DIDNT EVEN KNO CL WAS CHARGING NOW…

    I JUS WNT TO SEE WHO ACTUALLY IS PAYIN THE 5 DOLLERS… AND IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY1 STILL IS…

    SO I THINK ARGUING AND COMPLAINING IS NOT GONNA STOP IT..,

    ITS JUS BETTER TO GO ON WITH UR LIVES AND FORGET CL U KNO.??

    I PERSONALLLY AM UPSET AS WELL BUT TONS OF PEOPLSE ARE STILL POSTING SOO I DUNNO!!

    HOLLA AT CHA GIRL! MUAHZ

  185. Dennis Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 3:04 pmThis is going to lose business for craigslist. Gay.com tried this, to make it so you had to pay. They changed it when too many people complained; to just reducing services… since things are more complicated with Gay.com, other sites are profiting such as manhunt.net; adam4adam etc.  

    This kind of thing will result in new sites popping up to compete with craigslist. On the internet FREE is KING.

  186. another provider Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 3:05 pmJust because there are other people who abuse this service does not mean we all should pay. Posting on the Internet is far safer than working the streets or through escort agencies. We can screen clients, we have their telephone numbers, and don’t have to be out in public. Some posters, which are mostly agencies, post about 50 times in one hour….I keep seeing the same ads over and over again, and even as a call girl myself I find these ads offensive. But I don’t want to interfere with another’s speech or income, so I keep quiet. Me, I work for myself only, and it’s completely wrong and unfair to harass people like myself who are not hurting anyone or doing anything illegal. SHAME ON YOU who have brought this on!
  187. Jeff Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 3:08 pmPersonally speaking, I am very happy about this for selfish and non selfish reasons.  

    First, with the econonmy being what it is I don’t want young ladies to find it easy to choose prostitution. The choice of prostitution shoult never be so easy.

    Second, comptetion will be reduced for people who offer legitimate erotic services. There are so many people who post over and over again, flag competition, and post negative comments about competition. I offer a legitimate adult phone service. It gets flagged for reasons I do not understand. I would appreciate it if someone could tell me if what I am offering violates craigslist TOS.

  188. B Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 3:16 pmYup, boycotting CL!!!! Single mom struggling………time for public assistance. Thanks
  189. amberr reynolds Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 3:16 pmWHAT A TOTAL CROCK OF **** ! ! !  

    SO MUCH FOR FREEDOM OF ANY G/D THING IN THIS COUNTRY !!!!!!!!

    NO ONE IS HUMAN TRAFFICKING. ! !!O ARE JUS

    THAT IS JUST AN EXCUSE BY THE FEDS TO LOOK LIKE THEY ARE ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING …
    BESIDES SPENDING OUR MONEY !!!!!
    THERE ARE MANY LADIES WHO ARE SIMPLY TRYING TO PAY THE RENT …PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE….WHY CUS EVERY DAY WE LOOSE THOUSANDS OF JOBS IN THIS COUNTRY !!!!!!!!

    NOW WHAT ? ? ? ?
    CITYVIBE !!!!!!

    HE DUMB f***KS WOULD JUST LEGALIZE PROSTITION THEY GET THOUSANDS IN TAX REV…..

    BUT AS USUAL THING !!…THE CRACKHEADS….METH HEADS f**K UP A GOOD THING !!!!!!

    THANK TO ALL THE DOPE FENDS FOR OVER POSTING TO GET THAT DOPE MONEY (((( DOING CAR DATES !!!!! )))))

    THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL THE SKANKS …..STEALING ….ROBBING GENTLEMEN……AND THANKS FOR ALL THE LOW LIFE WANT A BE PIMPS ….YOU A** HOLES …..

    JUST TOOK FOOD OFF TABLES….

    AND PUT FAMILIES OUT IN THE STREET !!!!

  190. FETISH JADE Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 3:19 pmit is definately unfair but there are other places to post.  

    j

  191. AMUSED IN SAN DIEGO Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 3:24 pmWow. First of all, I have to express my admiration for CL for wanting to crack down on child prostitution and human trafficking. I think your intentions are good. However, I do have to agree with a previous poster about a more poster-friendly way to do it. Why “can’t” you just charge $.01 for the post if all you want to do is require a credit card for validation? Do you seriously NEED to charge people $5 per post?  

    As for the posters, many of you are overreacting and reading way more between the lines than what is there. First of all, the police will not have any interest in small-time escorts who are simply making a living. The only reason they will subpoena your personal information is if they feel you may be involved in trafficking or serious hard-core prostitution. Which brings me to my next question… if what you are doing isn’t illegal, then why are you worried about this? I mean, I completely understand the need for privacy and (sometimes) anonymity… but let’s not go overboard. Most of you are willing to post your photos in your posts, anyway. If you’re worried about privacy, then you pretty much defeat yourself in that argument right then and there.

    None of this matters, anyway. I am a massage therapist… a LEGITIMATE MASSAGE PROFESSIONAL who has no reason to post in ES. I post in COMMUNITY SERVICES, for crying out loud! And still, even though my ads specifically state that I do not offer erotic or sensual massage, 70% of those who respond to my posts attempt to solicit this kind of service. It’s sad, and it’s a huge mental drain on someone who is trying to make money legitimately. I do understand where many of you would be upset because of the $5 implementation, especially with the flaggers going nuts and CL really not being as attentive as they “say” they are. I mean… really… we all know that it doesn’t take more than one flag to remove a post. I’ve encountered this myself and I can guarantee you that one person can get it done… and very swiftly, I might add.

    CL is a glorified sex shop… plain and simple. It’s always been dominated and fueled by those seeking sexual gratification in one form or another… regardless of whether they are selling it or buying it. CL is the world and sex makes it go around. I only wish it was easy to find a real and legitimate JOB on the site as it is to find someone willing to give head or share in a fist-fuck… for free!

    I’m not sure where I am going with this… just venting, I guess. Bottom line… I applaud the supposed motivation behind CL’s actions, I just think they are going about it all wrong. They skipped right over the “happy median” and went right for the controversy… all in the name of what?

  192. Lady Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 3:27 pmLadie, all this is is an effort to collect data and target anyone that they want to. I will no longer use CL.  

    Guys, now you have to concern yourself with the idea that LE is watching anyone that is posting. I would really recommend that you keep # to the ladies that you have visited before but are not posting.

    Further, this is about government control!

    Everyone please be careful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  193. Tom FromMYSPACE Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 3:31 pmWhat I dont get is all of the post saying that I’m doing everything legal. Im not offering any illegal service. My question is this f your REALLY not offering any illegal service why is this such a big deal to you. Is $5 goig to kill you- NO its not so what is the beef. I mean seriously. And to the girls who ARE doing illegal things you give a CC to run a EROS ad, or post on Backpage, this is the same damn thing. Its as simple as tis if the pigs want you they will get you.
  194. pegasuskat Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 3:33 pmLet me get this straight. Craigslist is charging $5.00 to post. If you get flagged, you lose the $5.00 and then pay another $5.00 to repost. Even if you’re not flagged, you still have to pay $5.00 every 45 days. Gosh almighty, what a racket! Craigslist gets you coming and going! Why doesn’t the police go after the real criminals and leave the people of the “victimless crime” alone???
  195. O Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 3:57 pmThis doesn’t seem especially well thought out. I am adamantly opposed to human trafficking and minors in the sex trades, but this is a grossly apparent attack on the many independent women who make a living in the sex industry. These women aren’t hurting anyone. This is an unfortunate setback for freedom and privacy.
  196. Miss Jasmine Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 3:58 pmwow… first the violation of privacy is ridiculous. That is not American at all. It is just a screwed up way for the police to further misuse there power… I agree with everyone who spoke of a BOYCOTT… screw craigslist… if I am going to pay for an ad I will take my buisness to a MUUCCHHH classier site that also RESPECTS privacy……. GoodBye Craigslist….
  197. Earthdog (Jimmy) Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 4:04 pmFuck craigs list.There is other places to look and hook up. Yahoo has numeorus groups as does Google..all free. I ama married dude and like to play with men on occassion and this was fine. NOw living in Milwaukee area it gives the cops a place to zero in on folks like me, when I pay my hard earned cash for what I want……..all with the help of Craigs List
  198. K Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 4:05 pmSO WHERE ARE WE GOIN GIRLS?????? CRAIGSLIST IS OVER…
  199. Robert Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 4:06 pmClearly more of big brother coming down on us.I never found prostition a crime.As long as it is consenting what goes on between two adults and no other crime is commited (say like stealing from her or raping her) then I do not understand.What are they going to go after next? Enough is enough.
  200. C.J. Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 4:09 pmI can’t believe this. Luckily, since it is has so god damned hard to find work that would actually pay me enough to support myself and my two kids, who are now teenagers but that I still support full time…I have been able to use this as a means of support. I’m a person of lowly income as it is and only do this to survive, not to try to flourish so I don’t have a lot of money and if I did have a credit card, I wouldn’t use it to post an ad like this, so this is just forcing people already having a very difficult time into an even more difficult time. What the hell is going on in this country and why won’t anyone do anything about it?
  201. Kimberly Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 4:17 pmRidiculous….how dare CL require or release our personal information for ANY reason. I was dissapointed when they started requiring phone numbers and now just outraged that we must pay for a post that is typically flagged within a 30 minute period…without refund…get real!  

    Atleast stop the flagging process, so the person has an opportunity to create the business that will pay for that BS fee…so many wrong things with the CL system.

    Shame on you CL…

  202. Former User BOYCOTT Says: 
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  203. Kate Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 4:41 pmI’m also just a single mom trying to make it through nursing school. I had to cut back my hours at my regular job considerably just to keep up with all the studying. Less hours at work meant less money available for daycare, food, rent, etc… so I found work here and was starting to feel a little more stable.
    I wouldn’t mind paying the $5 if it means that I won’t get flagged every hour. Even if you post perfectly, someone comes along and flags you.
    The big thing keeping me away from CL now is the fact that the card requires an address. Sorry, I’m not giving that out. I don’t mind having to pay extra for a pre paid phone with no paper trail, but this has really taken it too far.
    Like the lady before said, “business wasn’t that good anyways”. I just hope I can find another site to offer my time and companionship.
  204. princess Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 4:52 pmand to “VICE COP” Get a life dude.. you think 5 little bucks means something to us?? We make 10 times that much in half an hour or less!! And the arrest isn’t a big deal either… YOU have to do all the hours of paper work and YOU have to sit in an office all night, we just go to jail for a day or 2 and then the charges don’t even go through because more than 80% of us aren’t stupid enough to say or do anything incriminating. You think that bothers us? No, its just a small inconvienience HAHA! Loser  

    You’re pathetic.. you need to get a life and start putting REAL criminals behind bars… Hopefully your wife gets raped and killed while you’re doing one of your little stings because there were no units in the area to respond to the 911 call quick enough. Idiot.

  205. pegasuskat Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 4:55 pmAll this is doing for craigslist is losing people and potential business. They should quite going after the small folks and actually go after the real criminals! I used to refer business to craigslist. But now ……..  

    BOYCOTT CRAIGSLIST!!!!!

  206. What A Jack…. Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 4:56 pmWOW!!! The fact that everyone is acting like charging a fee is actually going to stop the illegal activities is ridiculous. Honestly what will happen is the providers that are posting and not involved in human trafficking and the exploitation of minors are just going to stop posting and the Escort Services and Agencies that are involved in those things will just require the “new” girls over the age of 18 to use their own Credit Card. In the end the only ones that will be giving out more info are the ones that are being exploited and the ones that are heading the whole mess up will get off with out a hassle. I do think that something has to be done to clean up the section but this is going in the WRONG DIRECTION!!!
  207. EroticServicesProvider Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 5:01 pmWhat amazes me is how many ladies are flipping out that $5 is going to make them homeless or need public assistance.
    Really?
    Really?!?
    5 bucks an ad is going to make you homeless?  

    What crap.

  208. Boycott Moralitylist Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 5:01 pmI am calling for a BoycottBoycottBoycottBoycottBoycottBoycottBoycottBoycottBoycottBoycottBoycott
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    BoycottBoycottBoycottBoycottBoycottBoycottBoycottBoycottBoycottBoycott Until
    moralitylist retracts this horrible puritant polocy.
  209. NO MORE DRAMA Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 5:02 pmI AM GLAD TO SEE THAT ALL OF THESE “INDEPENDANT LADIES” CANNOT POST UNLESS THEY ARE A LEGAL SERVICE! MOST OF THESE CHICKS ARE OFFERING FULL SERVICE OR COMPANIONSHIP IN SOME WAY! THEY ARE NOT LEGAL AND HAVE THEIR NAME ON NOTHING! THE LEGAL COMPANIES IN THE PHONEBOOK WILLL NOW GET BACK TO NORMAL! THESE SERVICES IN THE PHONEBOOKS OFFER NOTHING ILLEGAL OR THEY WOULDN’T BE THERE (FOR TOO LONG ANYWAY)! SO GOOD JOB CL!!!! I PLAN TO POST! WITH ME DOING THAT DOES NOT MEAN IM WORKING WITH LE, IT ONLY MEANS IM LEGAL AND NOT DOOING ANYTHING ILLEGAL! HOLLA AT YA LADIES! MUAH
  210. SEDUCTORIAN Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 5:07 pmWell I feel like this. If a crime is being committed then prosecute. Everyone knows that there is child trafficking in the U.S.A. ! There is no room for error in any case. The anger from this is simply coming from the ones who are in the doing(wrong)! The point to the 5.00 is to discourage ” traffickers and get there business closed!!! It is not meant to hurt the lustful pleasures that we seek from the erotic services part! There is no way possible that these people can and will get caught. Why? because there just starting there what you would call investigation. Pictures does not say 1000 words it says 1000000! I am not impressed with the operation of Craigs list but hell the law made them do it. There are police officers that frequent the list as well. From the married ones to the single ones. Does that mean they are committing a crime. No it means that they want some erotic services! We are all freaks and the police is to. From the head of the cia to the fbi trust and believe they are freaking from craigs list or linda list somebodies list. I want to say chill fellow cl lovers everything is fine! The id thing is bs for real. They want money! There are to many other sites like this to go to like estia.com/erotica.com etc keep hope alive for the adults one here! get those that hurt the kids!  

    It didn’t seem to relievant until now for some apparent reason.

  211. Boycott Moralitylist Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 5:07 pmActually you would have to pay five bucks about every other day if you want anyone 2 C your ad, in most big cities the first page will fill up in a day or two, and this is due to the former popularity and former effectiveness of craigslist (aka moralitylist) and not due to scams which can already be held accountable with the phone varification or a much smaller credit card fee, say .01 like previously proposed. Also I want to repeat BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT
  212. strandednLA Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 5:13 pmWell it’s their site. What can you do?
    1. Participate in paying the $5.00 per ad or posting if you feel it’s worth it.
    2. View because you enjoy reading the ads
    3. Don’t log on to the site  

    but a lot of sites do that at the beginning they are free. they get you dependent on their product then they charge you $5.00 a listing like backpage did and others. They could say $10.00 a post or $15.00 either way their listings will probaby slow down much like it did when they wanted phone number verifications.

    good luck all.

  213. DRAMA QUEEN LIVE Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 5:33 pmOhhh my goodness child! I have to pay to make you come to me now. Well the prices of this victory Queen just went up 5 $ per person! To the females,ts etc…. I know a way to beat this! Let’s fuck all the law boys and make it all go away! I am serious too. There are 40 of my friends who are law enforcement from the CL but they were uninformed as well! So I guess that won’t help well how about this. I get a site together and let’s name some names? Let’s play Rosa Parks on there ass it’s time for a change baby! Like Celie say” What you do……. Now, I will build a site to log in on without ID to just give names, locations, numbers, birth marks etc etc ! Well stay tuned because I will get it together by Wednesday of next week! I will post my 5 dollar ad on CL called” OPPS I SLIPPED” SEE HOW LONG THIS LAST AFTER THIS. I DON’T EVEN POST ON THE LIST. I THINK IT’S JUST WRONG WHEN THERE IS 100000 MORE SITES TO F*** WITH AS WELL! BYE CHILDREN! HI CEE CEE, MARK, RITA AND YOU!
  214. in the know Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 5:35 pmLet me say that CL has been going downhill for years now. When I first started posting here, when someone responded to an ad, 99% of them followed through. The past year or so, 25% followed through and the past month or so 1% followed through. All of the guys posting for women seem to be nothing but pic collectors because they never follow through. There were always posts about being robbed by someone and in my opinion they were the ones that the police should have gone after. Two months ago I was arrested in a CL police sting and since have lost my vehicle, my home and the way things are going, I will be homeless soon. CLhas been in cahoots with the police for a while now. Mind you all I did was knock on a hotel room door and I was arrested. Nothing ever took place. I spent five days in jail, had to agree to a prostitution charge and am now unable to pass a background check. So it seems that people are better off without CL and the police which have nothing better to do with their time than to go after those just trying to survive. There is no excuse for any of this, but remember we do live in America the home of the free and the brave. What a joke. They take more of our freedoms away every day and will continue to do so because we let them get away with it. Until we’re ready to really fight back, they will continue to do so. So what are you going to do about it?
  215. Angel Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 5:38 pmMy Question To You Is Who’s Administration Did This?  

    Tears!

  216. I agree with Bob Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 5:39 pmI agree with Bob, Lets BOYCOTT!!! Forget CL, Lets post our ads somewhere else where its private and Free!
  217. Change We Need Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 5:44 pmFor the first time in American history, a black man is elected president.
    After being the economical powerhouse of the world, America is slammed with an economic slump. America is the country people come to in order to get an education and persue the American dream.  

    But you know what? America is also the place where I can’t get a student loan. America is the place where I have to give massages out of my apartment to afford to go to school. America is the place where the american dream is doing 30 loads of laundry a week because I have to give massages out of my apartment to afford to go to school.

    All this aside…. all my GOVERNMENT can do for the PEOPLE is make it so that I have to pay more money to get by. Talking about helping kids? Help this kid stay in school and stop laundering money from people. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not underaged, I’m underprivledged and this just put a major damper on my education.

    Thanks Craigslist for making this holiday season bright. Looks like I’ll be hustling and bustling from class to one of my 3 jobs for the rest of this holiday season. :) Cheers.

  218. MarisaIsAngry Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 5:50 pmNow what….?????? this just b***s***
    girls just get the prepaid credit cards from greendot.com
    and be careful with them pigs  

    Boycott Craigslist!!!!!!

  219. Venting407 Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 5:51 pmI am an escort that posts on cl,and I think the $5 per posting is ridiculous,but not as much as the giving up of personal information.I understand that it is only to be given up in the event that there is a supoena..but how do we really know that for sure?How do we know that the police wont just ask for it,and it just be given to them..Hell for that matter,how do we know that once we put that card info in,that there is not something that alerts them right away,and they automatically get our info?It wouldn’t be the first time a company has lied,and it wont be the last.I just feel that whatever a woman does or doesn’t do with her body is her business,especially if it’s between two consenting adults!!Whatever happened to freedom of speech,the rights of the constitution?Is this not America,the land of the free??
  220. Michelle Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 6:07 pmSo, let’s see if I have this right. when the other jealous jerks start flagging me, as they have done in the past, who do I call about the reason my money was confiscated. I’m more than willing to play by the rules. (By the way, nude massages are LEGAL) But I’ve been flagged and deleted many times without a reasonable answer as to WHY, other than I’m a Whore. I’m truely ambivelent about subscribing to craigslist, which is what the posting fee amounts to, without any reasonable recourse if I’m not satisfied. Whatever happened to the non-judgemental culture that craigslist was supposed to foster?
    Plus, if I’m subscribing to this business, it shouldn’t be up to the general population to judge and flag me. If I’m paying, I deserve service. That is the way I run my businesses. That is the only way to be successful in today’s recession.
  221. NatalieReign Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 6:12 pmFor those of who are concerned with Craigslist encroaching on your freedom of speech…  

    Consider this. Speech is not protected by the 1st Amendment when it is characterized as ‘obscene.’ Obscene speech refers many types of expression, most importantly, in this case, child pornography and its related exploitation of minors. Child pornoraphy (and by extension, promotion of child prostitutes) is considered obscene not because of the sexual material involved, but because of the AGE of those involved. Theoretically, a child under the age of 18 is not legally entitled to enter into a contract, and is unlikely to enter into a business such as escorting without coercion or persuasion by an adult.

    Additionally, Craigslist cannot, no matter what it does, violate your Constitutional right to free speech or ‘freedom of the press.’ Why? Because the Bill of Rights was not designed to protect individuals from other individuals, or to protect individuals from corporations. It was designed to protect individuals from the government. Because Craigslist is not a ‘government actor’ initiating some sort of restriction on your Constitutional rights, it’s incorrect to say that Craig’s new policy is somehow interfering with the protections extended to you by the 1st Amendment.

    Why is this so important? Because anything Craigslist does, it is doing to protect its own interests as a business. The government is primarily interested in reducing pimping/pandering and child exploitation, but the fact remains that while escorting in and of itself is illegal, exchanging sex for money IS still against the law, and if law enforcement cracks down on the sad practice of child prostitution, and in the meantime happens to catch some adults involved in prostitution as well, they are simply doing their jobs.

    Law enforcement exists to ENFORCE the laws enacted by the legislature. If you truly want to crusade against the injustices present in this situation, rally together and promote legalization of prostitution a la the great state of Nevada.

    If you’d rather stay under the radar, keep quiet. Get a day job, find another way to advertise your services, and operate with the understanding that one day, you may get caught. Prostitution is the world’s oldest profession. It was rampant long before the invention of the Internet or the advent of Craigslist, and it will be here long after.

  222. patsy Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 6:17 pmCan someone please email me at sanfrandob@gmail.com and give me some new sites to post on?
  223. None of Your Business! Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 7:03 pmHere’s a thought CL – If you’re going to donate the proceeds to charity, why not donate all of them to an organization that benefits sex workers. Why not give the money to a legal fund to help pay for legal costs incurred by the people arrested in sting operations perpetrated by your assisting police agencies in arrests. Just a thought!
  224. Legitimate Certified Massage Therapist Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 7:47 pmThis is a step in the right direction!!! HOWEVER…now all of the pros on ES are just going to flood the section I post in and call their ES Therapeutic. I’m not mad at any of the “working girls” but do those of us a favor who spent thousands on our educations and are posting to get potential clients in the Therapeutic Services only to have to compete with fake massage therapists giving out overpriced hand jobs as “CMT’s”. Pay the $5.00 for crying out loud…anyone can get a prepaid Credit/Debit card and put it in a fake name. You ladies are getting at least twice the pay I am and you guys don’t have to pay for student loans for laying on your backs.
  225. STOP blaming CL. Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 7:48 pmSTOP blaming CL,FIND OUT A NEW WAY!
  226. johny Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 8:44 pmCraigslist….A once useful tool caving to Big Brother. Puritanical hogwash! The posts about child porn etc. Bullshit!!! I’ve never used the ‘Erotic Services’, although I have looked. I guess everyones just supposed to get their sex the healthy way….get married and lie in the missionary position and make babies ’cause you know thats all sex is for’. Or get very drunk in bars and pick up wholesome people to bring home and introduce to mom. Or become even more odd and whack it to internet porn so that you dont even need human contact at all!!!!! wtf is wrong with our society?!?!? CRAIGSLIST—–SPINELESS!!!! whats next?! $10 FREE POSTINGS SECTION? $15 GARAGE SALE ADS?!? SMEG OFF!!!!!!!!
  227. B Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 8:57 pmI am a provider, and my ‘hobbyists’ include high-end professional men. I am discreet and respectful of their privacy, however, if I were to be arrested for prostitution (providing companionship), I can assure you that my ‘lil black book’ will become public fodder!! My clientele includes judges, police officers, attorneys, physicians, preachers, local business owners, etc… I hope that law enforcement thinks twice regarding subpoenas, and will not abuse this authority because I can only begin to imagine the resulting scandals.  

    Bottom line (no pun) is that I provide companionship for many lonely hearts. I accompany these men to movies, casinos, banquets, sporting events, dinners, etc…The beauty of doing this as a ‘provider’ is that these men can ‘date’ me w/o all the responsibilities of a relationship. ABSOLUTELY no strings!! Beyond this becomes a matter between consenting adults. You might be surprised at how few of these ‘dates’ actually end in a sexual act. They are just lonely FGS!!

    If I go down, I can assure you that I’ll bring all you hobbyists down. Can’t have it both ways. Both parties are equally culpable. So hobbyists, speak up!! Let’s hear from you…..we’re all in the same boat……

    Yes, I don’t mind the 5 dollars, but I DO mind submitting my private info. CL is not a secure site, thus I will not put my cc info. out there. And my address?? Forget about it!! Just sayin…

  228. christy Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 9:00 pmyes even though you pay your adds can still be flagged
  229. christy Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 9:01 pmno refund if your add is flagged
    “Paid ads that violate site guidelines will be removed without refund. “
  230. LYNN Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 10:55 pmHEY GIRLS … No charge to post in the EROTIC SECTION in CANADA !! I turn away at LEAST 20 calls a day because myself and the girls I work with can’t keep up with the demand.  

    So, hey, give some thought to coming up here …. we’ll even help you with your airfare and work up here where ESCORTING IS TOTALLY LEGAL!!

    Drop me a line at ASIALYNN2008@GMAIL.COM and we’ll go from there.

    VERY BEST WISHES !!

  231. Capitalistic Junkie Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 11:03 pm$5,00 charge x 600 ads per day=$3,000.00  

    $3,000×7=$21,000.00

  232. Destiny Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 11:16 pmYou guys are full of shit for this one lol well see how long this will last. Who wants to do all that just to post on your site?????! Someone will just step it up and make something better where we are not background checked and harrassed for 5 dam dollars everytime we want to post! I HOPE YOU PPL WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS!
  233. Destiny Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 11:18 pmI AGREE WE SHOULD BOYCOTT
  234. Ann Says: 
    November 7th, 2008 at 11:56 pmIf we are going to pay $5.00 per ad, then CL needs to stop all the flagging all the time in WA State, mainly in the Spokane area. I get flagged at least 3 times a day, that is 15.00 out of my pocket for what??? CL needs to wake up and smell the coffee and I thought this was a country of freedom!
  235. UNITE TO ACCOMPLISH Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 12:11 amI have an idea. I am a computer science major and also an erotic service provider and I have alot of experience with web design and web application development.  

    We can band together and create a new site, all it takes is a little bit of money for webspace and some dedication. Why not spend your $5 on something worthwhile. I have created an email address dedicated to all of you interested in banding together to create a new website for erotic service providers : unite.2.accomplish@gmail.com

    I’ll be taking ideas, suggestions, stories….

    With the economy like it is, I cannot and will not bear to see my fellow girls lose ALL WE HAVE because reasonable means of advertising was ABRUPTLY shut down. Though there is no sense in crying over spilled milk, it would have been nice for a little bit of a heads up, CL. I appreciate what you are doing to prevent child abuse and trafficking, but for every potential child you save, you are in turn cutting deep into the finances of single mothers across the U.S.

    We do what we have to do to get by. It is so easy to say “Go get a regular job” Well hunny let me tell you something. I’m a full time student with a part time REGULAR job and I STILL HAVE TO PROVIDE EROTIC SERVICES TO MAKE ENDS MEET. Its not like I’m not trying, I’m not taking the easy way out…. easy? How would you like to put your hands on the hairy backs of men and listen to them grunt their appreciation at you? Its not fun, so why don’t you put yourself in the shoes of someone who isn’t living off of their parents good fortune and ask yourself what would YOU do to put yourself through school.

    Sure, making our own website sounds outlandish, maybe we won’t get it off the ground, but you know what? Maybe we will. So message me atunite.2.accomplish@gmail.com. I’ll be waiting.

  236. PrisonerOfState Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 12:43 amThe simple fact is that we live in a FACIST society, with two-faced “morals” and patriarchal bigotry. Women have been raped and supressed for thousands of years. Any chance for a woman ascend beyond the bourgoise mentality is murdered immediately. The ONLY thing that making “prostitution” illegal does is cause PIMPS to own and enslave poor uneducated women. Where prostitution is legal {France, Nevada}, the women are clean- drug AND disease-free, and SAFE. This is just a mass attempt to keep women in line to be breeders. Now whores are just called “wives”.
  237. Mark Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 1:03 amGet real, Are we really suppose to think all of this BS is to stop Missing and Exploited Children and classified ads from being misused for the facilitation of human trafficking, child exploitation, and other illegal activities. I’m all for the police cracking down on people who exploit minors Show me one posting that did just that on CL. Just 1 what is going on is this erotic service is being shut down by people who can’t stand the fact that some are making as much a hour as some of the attorneys involved in this stupid thing, for something that can never be proven and with this Disclaimer What’s the problem?  

    Money exchanged in legal adult personal services for modeling is simply for time and companionship. Anything else that may or may not occur is a matter of personal choice and personal preferences between two or more consenting adults of legal age and is not contracted for, nor is it requested to be contracted for in any manner. This is not an offer of prostitution. I do reserve the right to decline appointments as I deem necessary.

  238. shut up already!!! Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 1:09 am……………prostitution is illegal in america if you dont like it move to amsterdam!…………..yah yah yah.. everyone get off craigs jock already! Why should he incur attorney fees, court fees and take the risk of potential jail time for YOU? Your the one who’s making money of CL … NOT HIM! Up until now HE’s been paying all those fees for you people and taking ALL the risk so YOU can make money! Now that people are breathing down his back you wanna turn on him and call him immature names? seriously? YOURE the ones breaking the law by charging for sex! YOURE the ones benefitting from CL for all these years! YOU should be the ones thanking him for his service all these years and all the money its put into YOURE wallets! Ive seen so many “we’re not hurting anyone” comments in here.. well guess what.. you are! Theres so many of you spreading stds and sending your “drivers” to beat potential clients… and maybe its not all of you but theres a good number of you doing it! The whole “im innocent” batting your eyes routine aint working!
  239. um question Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 1:19 amAfter all the years of posting ads free on Craigslist, shouldn’t you all have a long list of loyal clientele by now? And also can I just say NatalieReign is right on!
  240. Keith Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 1:23 amYes…this is bullshit…CL should do something about the scams, not help the police lock up people trying to make a living…its really about freedom of speech and our privacy…the police should be looking for real criminals…thats the problem…they are trying to lock up the wrong peoples…shame on you Craig, you’re a fucking sellout…I will be looking for another site…Craigslist is on its way out…Good job, you weenie.
  241. Oh well Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 1:41 amLook we all know trading sex for money is illegal in america. We can’t blame CL for this change. They had a ton of people they were fighting on a daily bases about this and they were featured in many documentaries about human sex trafficking. You can’t expect them to take all the blame an heat while you sit back getting paid and doing nothing. Start a website of your own, rally together and fight for the legalization of prostitution, move to a nevada or another country where you won’t have to worry about breaking the law. The bottom line is there was alot of pimps placing ads for minors on CL, human sex traffickers posting ads for girls they kidnapped, girls getting their “drivers” to beat money out of clients even before they gave them their services etc. We all knew it was going down. It sucks that it had to come to this but maybe if we all took it upon ourselves to flag those people or contact them or whatever do soooomething maybe we wouldn’t be in this situation now. We can’t blame CL, they fought for us all this time. —– TO “PRINCESS”: your remark to “vice cop” which follows: —- “Hopefully your wife gets raped and killed while you’re doing one of your little stings because there were no units in the area to respond to the 911 call quick enough. Idiot.” is immature and low class.
  242. mitch Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 1:52 amAgreed- This is BULL.  

    F*CK CRAIGSLIST..

    The ONLY reason i ever same to this site was for the Erotic services ads..
    And now that they will be gone (lets face it.. NO ONE is paying FIVE DOLLARS an ad WITH the potential to have it FLAGGED every time!!) I really have NO draw to check out the site any more.

    On an average day i would check there first then maybe check out eletronics or cars.. But seriously..
    That first attraction’s gone now.. So bye bye craigslist.

    Way to give in to the communists.

    They’ve all got a stick up their @sses- and you just managed to shoved the biggest stick out there up your own.
    idiots.

    CAN WE PETITION THIS SH*T?????????????
    CAN WE PETITION THIS SH*T?????????????
    CAN WE PETITION THIS SH*T?????????????
    CAN WE PETITION THIS SH*T?????????????
    CAN WE PETITION THIS SH*T?????????????
    Maybe a million signatures will overpower some d0uche in a “power position”.

  243. Bob F Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 1:55 amThe best way to boycott Craigslist is to target their source of income, job postings.  

    If we are to try and change the Craigslist company’s mind about the credit card fee for the Erotic Services section we have to hit them where it hurts, their source of revenue.

    I encourage recruiters and businesses to not post job postings on Craigslist if it is in an area you have to pay for the ad.

  244. Happy with the Changes Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 2:03 amFirst I would like to thank Craigslist.  

    Part of the problem today is the lack of personal responsibility and being allowed to post anonymously only added to the problems and the lack of personal responsibility.

    If you are actually providing a legal service, why would you even care if you have to verify your information? It’s legal right, next joke.

    If you truly do nothing illegal, then you could not be in fear of being arrested. Legal tip – if you don’t violate any law, the police cannot arrest you.

    Secondly, are people really that stupid to believe the craigslist is now the internet police?

    First let’s look at the internet in general; no one has any expectation of privacy on line. People claim they protect your privacy, yet all of your on line activities can be tracked at anytime, just ask your internet provider. All it takes is a subpoena from law enforcement.

    Craigslist made a statement; they would provide information to police with a subpoena if illegal activities continued.

    Hello stupid people, regardless of what site you use, all the police have to do is present a subpoena and any site is required by law to release your information to the police so they can still see all of your illegal activities on line.

    And it seems most other sites you have to provide your name, address, phone number and email and payment method. Again, just ask the site you are now using what there policies are when they get a subpoena, see what they tell you. It’s not a multiple choice answer, and there is only one answer. They comply or face criminal charges.

    Why should craigslist be any different in the information they require? Oh yeah that’s right, craigslist should be different so you can anonymously post your illegal ads and try to make it sound legal by saying something stupid like “if anything else happens it’s between two consenting adults”.

    Blaming craigslist for putting you out of business? WTF? You all claim in your comments you are providing a legal service and in the same breath saying craigslist is putting you out of business. Get a grip on life. If it’s a legal service then craigslist has done nothing to you or your business. And if you cannot afford to pay 5 bucks per ad when you charge anywhere from 100 to 200 an hour, WTF?

    I think it’s funny that the people complaining are so pathetic.

    One person was so pathetic they said they would move to another country, Thank God, leave, get out of here while you still can. The police are after you…Lmao. If you are so pathetic to think prostitution is between two consenting adults, you are sad. It’s still a paid service and that will always make it illegal.

    And on your way out of the country take the rest of the out of work prostitutes with you. Maybe in another country you can get the laws changed to accept your profession or it may even be legal in other countries, move there soon. Find out and report back so we know where to send the other out of work prostitutes if they don’t want to go with you right now. Or actually get a real job.

    Craigslist, I give you 2 thumbs up and applaud your efforts to clean up your site from the illegal services that are posted there daily.

    I only hope that you continue to improve your site and I will be using your site more now that the prostitutes are going to boycott your site.

  245. Brian Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 2:27 amCL sucks ,, Here I thought wow what a great sight that does not cave and give into all the BS,,, I guess I was wrong and will be using CL ALOT less!!!! For living in a free country it seems we sure have more and more censorship.
  246. craigslist is gay Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 3:44 ami really hate craigslist now
  247. Escort left in the dust Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 4:20 amI have been using erotic services succesfully for three years – on and off when my business intelligence gigs dwindled (and now – they are almost non-existent), so as a very well-educated (Ivy League and MBA), classy, sophisticated woman with a real love for the sensual side of companionship – I will be out of my apt next month without being able to post. PLEASE HELP ME – WHERE ELSE CAN I POST? I will never give a credit card for privacy reasons. Any other sites similar to the “old” CL? Any help would be graciously appreciated.
  248. Escort left in the dust Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 4:20 amgreat – you’ll probably sensor that request too!
  249. Big Brother Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 5:41 amShame on you CL, you’ve been duped.  

    Once again “child exploitation”, something everyone, including me, is obviously against and disgusted by, is used as a pretext to justify another agenda: clamping down on the speech and activities of consenting adults.

    Notice that no facts, such as exactly how many of these ads had anything to do with child exploitation are ever given.

    Prosecute those ads when (if?) they ever come up. Forward them to the police. But why destroy your erotic services forum?

    Why not just do the honorable thing and shut down the forum rather than making it an entrapment service as you have done.

    They’ve got you right where they want you, CL: tripping all over yourself and bending over backwards to destroy your forum and selling out your adult users “for the sake of the children”. Wonder what they’ll ask you to do next?

    I hope the police are at least paying you something to compensate you for becoming a law enforcement agency.

    Good luck with that.

  250. Master Myth Ookami Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 6:35 amI for one, am glad to see the requirement of a 5.00 fee. I have been working as a nude masseur for our 5 years and am SICK and TIRED of competing with a pack of johns. Seriously, whoring out was NEVER what this section was supposed to be for. The section here in Atlanta was being FLOODED with whores – wake up folks there are many other ways to market yourself without stooping to the worlds oldest profession. Most of us who work legit are happy to pay an ad fee and just factor that into the cost of doing business. SO PLEASE BOYCOTT – you will just help me obtain a larger market share. In every other business, you have to factor in your adverting costs. Welcome to the real world. And as Lynn said, if you don’t like it, move to Canada or to a country and use Gumtree. But don’t waste time fussing about that ‘police state.’ You whores did this to yourselves. If you guys would have read the damned TOU in the first place, this would have never been an issue.
  251. :3 Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 6:42 am-1000 internets for you
  252. TD Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 6:43 amSo be it… I think $5 may be a little steep, but I suppose you have to start a trial and error process somewhere…
  253. POINTLESS Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 7:07 am15 year old runaways will be able to buy prepaid debit cards and prepaid cell phones at their local mall, and post sex-for-sale ads in order to raise the necessary funds to escape their crack-addicted parents.
  254. Lou Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 9:08 amI had to click the background on the $5 charge just to see if it was real or a joke. And, AGREE…you are fn out of your mind. How the hell do you go from FREE to $5 a posting and think we’re going to believe this money will go to charity? How about disclosing how much money you’re making from the sale of your employment ads? How much of that money goes to charity? YES. YES. YES Boycott craigslist. Apparently he hasn’t been hurt by this economy and knows how to make it worst for others. BOYCOTT CRAIGSLIST. I recall a similar website AND its FREE. Once, I locate it I will share with you all. BOYCOTT CRAIGSLIST.
  255. none ya fuckin biz Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 9:12 amThis is some crazy ass shit. You people need to get real and let this country be free. OBAMA 08 stands for something so let it be.
  256. van Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 10:08 amAlso, Cityvibe offers free posts. On the other hand, ANY site has to comply with a subpoena if LE wants to get your info, and everyone should have been hyperventilating about their privacy when phone verification started, not just C.C. charges. Unless you have a prepaid phone or set up your account at a payphone somewhere, your full info can easily be obtained by your cell number alone. Anyone can do it for a few dollars on the web, at a site like Intellius. The big difference isn’t in whether LE could have always obtained your full info anytime they liked, the difference is that CL being free and unmoderated has always allowed MOST providers and MOST clients to act like they have total diarrhea of the mouth. Discretion has been completely destroyed thanks to everyone posting the way they do on CL. It’s gotten to the point that if someone who does operate in a sensible way has to fend off mountains of emails and phone calls every day from clients who have been “trained” by idiotic providers to just call up and say or ask for anything, as if this is Amsterdam.
    some of us have always complied with CL’s terms of service and never mentioned money, posted an obscene picture, or offered illegal services in any post – yet our posts are flagged and practically every other post you see on there does all those things. Any child can go to CL and click on posts to see pics of genitalia and even penetration, both specifically prohibited by the terms of service. Considering with the utter lack of caution of everyone on CL, It’s really no surprise that LE would concentrate there like no other site – like shooting fish in a barrel. Suggestion: go find some other sites, but this time don’t RUIN THEM!!
  257. Louisa Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 10:21 amYou are hypocrites. I sent a post yesterday – calling CraigsList out about how you are going to be helping the attorney general – gimme a abreak, you were forced to, and blaming it on software. Now you’re going to charge. It’s all about prostitution & underaged youth. You never posted my comment. It figures, you censored it. I’m not surprised. If you had any morality and ethics you would remove all such services legal or not from your website. You’re a bunch of hypocrites. Yet you post all the crap above. I’ve lost total respect for your site. And since you never posted my last message, I will be sure to POST on any and all popular blogs, making the public more aware of your indecent behaviour. Immoral Sellouts.
  258. Rod Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 10:21 amI appreciate that craigs makes a distinction between the therapeutic community and the erotic providers. The problem with this move that by charging the erotic section for ads those providers are even more encouraged to move their spamming onto the therapeutic board which is already overwhelmed with sexual ads.
    Start by enforcing your own standards first! Keep the postings on topic.
    And stop the Spamming/Top posting Multi posting hookers from deluging legitimate therapeutic practitioners.
  259. Thomas Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 10:24 amWell it looks like from the comments that the majority of people overwhelmingly disagree with these developments.
    I live in the Richmond area and have on occasion posted and ad for girl that does not have a computer or the savvy. Her life was instantly improved, stopped walking the streets, safer, cleaner, more money for her time.
    I can never do that again! No way that I trust the U.S Department of Justice! Corrupt as hell! They still never got to the bottom of firing 9 US Attorney Generals or all the missing FBI money. I certainly don’t trust the criminal justice system of the Commonwealth of Virginia! Many localities spend enormous amounts of money, time, and resources, trying to bust pimps and hos. The crimes are misdameanors and hardly anyone really gives a shit.
    The $5 to me is not as disturbing as having to have your personal information ready and available to the police! You don’t trust CL posters but we are suppose to trust corrupt police not to exploit, and entrap with information that all they have to do is press a button to get? The police will try to destroy peoples lives just because they wanted some release and don’t have the time or game to do pick ups at a bar.
    The postings in my area have gone from average 40 a day to 8! That’s more than a 75% drop!
    Now as others have mentioned. If you are going to crack down on this illegal activity why not in other areas. There are some straight thieves on CL! Stealing to me is way worse than women trading time. People selling Boot Leg items, items that don’t work, stolen items, I personally know someone that was attempted to be scammed on that rental stuff,
    So open it all up to the police.
    You know what bottom line. CL is in bed with the police. Once you get in bed with the Police there is no end to it. CL IS NOW OWNED BY THE POLICE! I don’t think I want anything to do with that. Really a shame, I love the great deals I have gotten and the fact that I have been able to sell and give away stuff too.
    CL did say they would have to get supoena to get your info but I don’t believe that. They will just hand it over like the phone companies did to the NSA.
    I am genuinely saddened by this. It’s not about the girls or the $5 its about a once really great place now being a puppet to the police. The only thing I can think of that would make him do that is they threatened to destroy him and his family. They would do that too! He may have been under extreme pressure and in order to keep his site up this is what he came up with. Definitely not a win win. Sad, really sad.
  260. AJ Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 12:19 pmSimply Amazing !!!! 5$ is going to make you go umemployed, Homeless and out of Business??? 200 for an hour with no real overhead and cost involved for something that most of the girls are not getting anyways, come on now…..I have not stopped laughing about this ……you will probally have to raise the prices up 25$ to cover the 5$ ….lol.
  261. dadie Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 12:29 pmIt was neccesary too much spamming and abuse… But too expensive. They should charge a monthly fee
  262. Venting407 Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 1:31 pmWell with all of the responses,it seems that our voices have to be heard by SOMEONE…Can we petition this?
  263. Trent Mitchell Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 2:27 pmGood luck craigs, you guys are screwing yourself.
  264. Lew Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 3:10 pmThe start of Barrack Hussein Obama’s socialist society!
  265. water vixen Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 3:23 pmAlright. This is disgusting. I’ve never seen an exploited child ad or i would have dialed 911 immediately and gotten every community available involved. I don’t even like that so many women offer such dangerous services on here and don’t get flagged off, but as has already been said, EROTIC SERVICES implies well, erotic services. If someone wants to pay or be paid to lick army boots, that’s their business. Not craig’s list or the police. All this means is that a less protected avenue will become available and those with criminal intent will still find a way to exploit whatever it is they do. This is no longer a community, it has become a police state. Nothing any of these valid opinions have an outlet, and simply posting an opinion here could mean I get on some terrorist list or something. This is the last craig’s list will hear from me, and if possible, I will be part of the team that starts the people’s list, since “craig” obviously has issues.
    If you want to see online safe from predators and etc, give the money to sexual education and just education in general so no one can be exploited without their educated consent. If people weren’t ignorant and poor, they couldn’t be exploited now could they?
  266. ithurtswhenipee Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 4:46 pmI don’t know why you people are so upset. It’s only $5. When you are getting 250 roses per customer times how many customers respond to that single $5 ad, you are still making a handsom profit. And if this can help stop the exploitation of children, you should be proud to do your part.
  267. Sincerely Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 5:03 pmOk, so you’ve pretty much banned the so-called “prostitution” on CL. Do you think it will really work? Or do you think those girls will be lining up by the hundreds to handover their personal info? These girls I’m sure have private lives, family, friends, boyfriends, etc., and yeah I can see how with the economy in such bad shape “do what they gotta do” to make some extra money. Esp, when they’ve got families to support with all the lay-off’s. I see no problem with what they’re doing, its not like it doesn’t go on in the personal ads in EVERY circulating news paper, and those “washy washy’s” I’ve heard so much about from my boyfriends friends, that they frequent at least 3x a month. I’ve sold many of my items, old cookware, clothing, furniture, etc. on CL and have had no problems. Selling things on e-bay provides us our anonymity, no one who buys/purchases a product from us, can find out who we are and where we live etc. That’s why I found CL as such a great place aside from the E-bay selling which makes you click here & there, this password, that password, this c/c #, social sec. all kinds of private things that shouldn’t be broadcasted on the net. CL was simple & easy for selling the things in my home I needed to get rid of, now I’m being charged for it?? Not to mention now any old weirdo can find my real name and number, and know where I live, etc? I dont know about you, but there are such things as hackers, and your real personal info is NEVER safe on the web, and any a-hole w/ a badge from toys-r-us, can go ahead and find anything they want on the net. Its sad it really is. I hope you guys reconsider because you’ll lose a lot of business, and from the looks of it, a lot of your business is coming from the “Erotic Services” section, which is why you targeted that particular section. They WILL find other places to post, believe me, and word will spread like wildfire that CL is no longer anonymous, and attacking/dermanding personal info if you’d like to post or do business with them. Its always been like a free newspaper, so once word spreads that the next Mary Ann, who wants to sell her old loveseat thats rotting in her garage, is going to be required to give them c/c info, etc, they’ll stop using CL, period. It would be a good idea to go after the REAL criminals, drug dealers, scammers, hackers, kids selling guns & drugs online, or stolen car parts, and leave the stupid girls/guys just trying to make a buck alone!! No, its not legal in this state, but it will be eventually, it already is in others. Like War, Love, Politics, and Murder, Prostitution will ALWAYS be around…always, its one of the world’s oldest professions, and such a shame you guys are targeting them, lol. Its sad you can’t find other, REAL, and IMPORTANT things to throw $$ at, support, and start ye old “crime fighting gang” lol. I’ll no longer be using CL, to sell anything, that’s what you guys wanted, that’s what your getting. Poor CL, you guys were booming, and cross-country being used daily..now what??
  268. eatmebitch Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 5:24 pmFUCKING COPS IN COLONIE NY HAVE STING OPPS AND THEY HAVE THESE GIRLS AND THEY ARREST YOU FOR NOTHING…….FUCK ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CAUSING ALL THESE PROBLEMS FUCK GW BUSH
  269. wow Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 5:43 pmWOW….that’s all i got to say.
    CAN WE ALL SAY BOYCOTT!
  270. Joni Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 5:46 pmThis SUCKS – and not in a good way…
  271. A NEW SITE Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 5:47 pmOk, so everyone said what needed to be said. Now who wants to open a new CL without the bull….? You have my support. Just email me. punitor1atgmail
  272. Anonymous Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 6:16 pmOK CL, So your saying if I give you my credit card information, you now have the right to divulge my information to a third party? Are you serious?  

    And if my ad is flagged what happens to my money? GONE?
    That’s not fair! There are people out there that even if you abide by the guidelines…THEY FLAG YOU FOR FUN!

    And will you release my info to the police if i’m not advertising any illegal activities are using explicit photos?? I mean the police already are arresting grown ass woman who don’t say or speak about anything illegal.

    I wish they would stop BSing the public using the exploitation of minors as a reason for this change. I mean if you’re looking for minors why are you arresting grown ass woman for?

    Ahhh CL i’m sooo disappointed. FIGHT THE POWER!!!

  273. melissa Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 6:37 pmOTHER THAN CRAIGS LIST……WHERE ELSE CAN WE POST ADS?……$5 THATS NUTS
  274. Somewhere around NYC Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 6:51 pmPre-emptively cooperating with the government is not an honorable thing to do. In the long run, it jeopardizes our freedom. If push came to shove, you should have shut down erotic services rather than cave in to the nazis. I will no longer recommend that anyone use Craigslist for anything. You have no obligation to gather data just because the govt might want it someday. Shame on you.  

    And now I’m sure the cops will be tracking down my e-mail and listing me as a subversive. I’ll probably be in Guantanamo by next week for daring to voice an opposing opinion to our all-powerful government. Once upon a time the U.S. was a democracy.

  275. jenni Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 7:45 pmbe HAPPY to boycott CL…… WHERE ELSE TO GO TO????
  276. me Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 9:51 pmso…it doesnt seem that the men are being charged to use the section, I mean doesn’t it go both ways…and if we are all about protecting children(which I agree with wholeheartly) Then shouldn’t the men that are fucking the teen girls, or not leaving as soon as they realize it’s a teen girl be the ones paying to see and use the service……….ya know charge their cards and ask their personal information?  

    we are not stopping men at all, we are not stopping pimps either.

    you are stopping the 35 year old woman who does legit massages, and provides a legal service.

  277. Snatchface Central Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 10:10 pmYou all are working with the feds??? Not cool man. I feel a Napster coming on quick. You all might as well take down the peace sign logo off because you’re definitely not free anymore. I hope like myself, alot of people will boycott your site so that you will go out of business.
  278. HELP ME Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 10:23 pmI CANT BELIEVE THEY ARE DOING THIS IT IS NOT THE 5 DOLLARS THAT IS BAD I AM NOT GOING TO PUT MY CC NUMBER ADDRESS AND ALL ON AN UNSECURED SITE NOT HAPPENING BUT WERE ELSE DO I GO TO POST AND GET CALLS I HAVE KIDS TO SUPPORT ALSO
  279. Escort left in the dust Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 10:40 pmPlease – yes – where else to go? I posted a very simple, legit, escort ad in several new places – backpage.com, dontlookanyfurther.com, and yellowpages – not one single response in 8 hours. There has to be a better alternative. Eros-guide.com charges $150!!
  280. Bob Saget Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 11:14 pmSo let us see. The police want to try to stop sexual slavery and hurting minors so rather than just do the job the way that they should they want to garner information on all providers so they can run checks and then if the information does not check out, track that provider down and possibly arrest them? I don’t know but it sounds like one big conspiracy to break down society’s oldest profession. I think this stinks. Just my opinion
  281. *Marigold* Says: 
    November 8th, 2008 at 11:34 pmI for one am THRILLED that CL is FINALLY doing something about all these whores!  

    Last time I checked, Prostitution was ILLEGAL, PERIOD.

    What are you wankers complaining about, huh?

    OMG..someone might actually find out that you’re a John to a High Tech, Internet Whore?

    Well FUCK YOU and your “I’m not hurting anybody” mentality!

    Those of us who actually are Licensed, Legitmate Massage Therapists are sick to bloody DEATH of all the prostitutes who pose as one of us!

    Clean up the garbage, and no, its not some sort of Police State…its about accountability.

    If those goddamned hookers wouldn’t have been so blatent things wouldn’t have come to this, plain and simple.

    Blame THEM, not CL.
    CL is just trying to cover their asses.
    And can you REALLY blame them??

    I don’t think so.
    If you think Prostitution is so bloody great, then by all means get involved in your state and work with the legislation to LEGALIZE it.
    Until them, shut your pie holes about what a crock this is.
    You have NO RIGHT to complain. PERIOD.

    This is a FREE site and NOT publically owned, operated or traded.
    So take your shit business elsewhere if following the LAW is a problem for you..no one is gonna miss you perverts in the long haul.

    Trust me on this one.

  282. Ralph222 Says: 
    November 9th, 2008 at 12:14 amI think this is unfortunate. I’ve met a number of young women over the past few years that have led to friendships. I have helped some financially, but it wasn’t for sex. We were friends that were interested in making each other’s lives a bit less lonely, a bit less difficult, a bit happier. I’m not sure I would have met any of them if they had to divulge private information so that they could have posted their ads. I don’t think the $5 is a big deal, but the addresses, etc. are. I’m wondering if there is another site that will step up or be created to fill this void left through CL’s new policy?
  283. Terry Says: 
    November 9th, 2008 at 4:34 amThe nazis strike again!
  284. kattie lay Says: 
    November 9th, 2008 at 5:56 ami dont know
  285. kattie lay Says: 
    November 9th, 2008 at 5:57 ami feel that it is a good thing what they are doing
  286. la ipanema Says: 
    November 9th, 2008 at 6:08 amI think it’s wonderful the Craigslist is taking this stand. Let the sex trade and the morally repugnant boycott Craigslist then! I’m sure Craigslist won’t be filing bankruptcy anything soon.  

    They can all go and find another site to pollute and degrade.

  287. Antoinette Says: 
    November 9th, 2008 at 6:08 amGood job, CL! Seeing all these people squeal like stuck pigs lets me know that what you did was right on. If someone wants to provide a ‘legitimate’ erotic service, then paying $5 to advertise that ‘legitimate’ service is nothing. It’s a business expense. All ‘legitimate’ businesses have some sort of advertising expense. Why shouldn’t they?  

    And if their service is truly ‘letitimate,’ they have nothing to worry about in providing the information requested. They are, after all, providing identifying information to the government when they report the income on their taxes, RIGHT?

    Thank you Craig and Jim and others at CL who are taking this step to clean up the site that you own (and are therefore allowed to make any rules you like as long as they are legal), as well as doing your part in trying to help protect exploited children and adults. If the advertisers aren’t doing anything wrong, they have nothing to worry about.

  288. Sally Says: 
    November 9th, 2008 at 6:10 amI hope all the people threatening to do boycotte CL actually do that. The list would be a much better place without them.
  289. evnmorenrvousthnb4 Says: 
    November 9th, 2008 at 7:30 amWell… I have never met an escort before but it was something I have always been interested in (yes I know might sound weird) I am a normal professional male from the CT area I have a wife and while I am not looking for sex per say, there are certain things I can’t talk to my wife (and things my wife won’t do) not to give too much info but I like a massage as much as the next guy too I also love to give massages (I wouldn’t mind actually paying someone to let me give them a massage) my wife doesn’t like to get them so that’s out. I also have a little foot fetish and that is another thing my wife doesn’t like (she is so sensitive I can’t even go near them) and the idea of meeting a woman who would enjoy/let me do these things interest me no strings i could be myself and not have to worry.. anyway long story short since I have been looking I have been nervous because I read all the articles of people getting arrested etc and you never know when you answer an add if someone is working with the cops or not… so now I am at a loss.. CL you should be ashamed someone like me who is just looking for someone that I could be myself around and have some fun etc… BOYCOTT….. ALSO LADIES WHO ARE RESPONDING HERE PLEASE GIVE SOME INFO ABOUT WHAT OTHER PLACES ARE GOOD TO GO TO FIND…
  290. Linda Kelly Says: 
    November 9th, 2008 at 8:56 amAnybody complaining about spending 5 bucks for an ad must have been placing way too many ads. I love the changes. I feel safer at Craigs than ever, with my safe and legal approach to adult entertainment, and it is SO much more fair. If you are not making money, WHY would you want to post?? And if you are making money, 5 bucks is really nothing. I feel you protest TOO MUCH, and there must be more than meets the eye. I am all for the freedom of speech thing, but business is business and lawsuits cost money! Craigs will survive any small minded boycott. Think deeper my friends, or at least READ the whole article. XLMILF4U Linda Kelly Lindascalls.com
  291. Bonerboy Says: 
    November 9th, 2008 at 9:27 amI am more concerned about the lack of ability to SPELL PROPERLY by these previous commentators, than I am about prostitution or erotic massage or blow jobs or whatever.
  292. michael Says: 
    November 9th, 2008 at 10:01 amAs so often happens when corrupt public officials do what they want to do: “It’s for the children.”
    Puh-leeze….
  293. Lady D Says: 
    November 9th, 2008 at 10:58 amSo, CL is conspiring with the Law now ??? Well, I have an idea on that as well. How about finding a group of attorney’s such as the immortal Barry Cohen Esquire (aka OJ Simpson Attorney) in Tampa Florida, or Luke Lirot in Clearwater Florida and a lot of people here on CL file a one hell of a Law Suit against CL, for them being part of other Illegal Scams here on there own site in which they support and they allow that illegal activity to keep on going on without failure or told to stop, or by charging them ???  

    I can prove this because I was sent $5,000.00 in fake Walmart Money Orders to cash them, and then send the guy a small portion of this money, if they got cashed….

    If CL is so concerned about people obeying the Law, then Craigslist better clean off there own door step before they step into something that won’t come off, or CL, and it’s owners, there Assigns & agents will also get called int a Law Suit that will make more headlines across America.

    If CL wants to go after the people you prey against innocent children and women who are being abused then go do that then, if that is what you really want to do. Then go do that and take your $5.00 rip off scam off your site….. you know it’s a money maker Scam and that is why your doing it…..

    If CL is after the Almighty dollar, then it shows that is actually what your real intent is for, and getting people to pay the $5.00 charge, only to have a computer or a person(s) to flag the Ad so that you will repost it again and again. How long do you think that is going to work ??? Get real CL your only after the Dollar and your hiding behind a SCAM !

  294. Carole Says: 
    November 9th, 2008 at 11:45 amGood! $5.00 isn’t a whorrific sum and it all goes to charity!
  295. Kandis Jackson Says: 
    November 9th, 2008 at 12:06 pmThis is so stupid. Does craigslsit really think that people are going to provide their personal credit card information and pay five dollars to post an ad for one of the many jealous girls on here to flag it and remove it just to get more competion AND NOT ISSUE A REFUND!!! THEY MUST BE NUTS. Instead of charging they should try to do something about this flagging issue. BOYCOTT!!!!!!!! Im going elsewhere
  296. joe Says: 
    November 9th, 2008 at 12:30 pmWELCOME to the Big Brother Era, where the police and government control EVERYTHING. This country was built on freedoms, and now most of our freedoms are being taken away. I dont mind if a guy wants to pay for a hooker, or escort. Thats HIS business, it’s better than raping someone. As far as children, each and evry one of us, are in agreement that thatsWRONG and that should be protected as well as punished. Some of these hookers are doing this so they dont walk the streets, and sell it in front of kids, ect. Some arent junkies and do this to survive. I would rather flip to craigslist and see the hookers, than look outside my window and see them parading up and down the street! Craigslist used to be a great place, but now its going to start going downhill. I agree with people saying we should send our message by NOT supporting craigslist, until they decide to go back to the old format. I am going to start flagging paid hooker ads in erotic services, so that way they stop by force, and everyone will be tired of the hookers in other sections, and they will stop using craigslist. let me say to the hookers, I dont care if you say you are a massuse, or an escort, you are a hooker if sex happens, nothing bad, but dont sit here and say, im an escort, im not a hooker. lol  

    Lets show craigslist what its like to get their hits to drop 90% and stop succumbing to Big Brother. lets voice our opinions and DEFENT NET NEUTRALITY, the PRINCIPAL on how craigslist was started!!!! ( after he told his freinds where they were geekin that weekend)

  297. Used to be-Ramona/Ashley Says: 
    November 9th, 2008 at 2:18 pmWow.  

    People get a grip. Craigslist is hardly going to lose any business/money because you *boycott* They own the site they can do whatever they want. How about being a little bit appreciative for that money you made.

    I am a retired *call girl* who used CL exclusively. First thing you need to do is get yourself out of the business. It was a long uphill climb but I did it and now I make MORE money then I did as a call girl because I am not going out afterwards and buying myself something to make me feel better about what I just did. My business still works off CL and if/when they start asking for money for other ads I will be willing to pay.

    Why should Craiglist help you make money while not getting a cut? There is no such thing as a free lunch!

    I am applaud Craigslist for there actions. My boyfriend will be posting for his M4M massage and paying the $5 with no qualms. He is happy to see that the fake posters and tweekers won’t be able to compete against him.

    I am glad you all want to go to another site, maybe it will make the craigslist erotic services section work again. Also what about safety? Don’t you care that now you won’t get jumped by some girls pimp, if they have info on the person the police could do something.

    Anyways thank you Craigslist for doing this.

  298. Mary Says: 
    November 9th, 2008 at 3:15 pmI am glad Cl has started to this. I am surprised that it charges now for each post.
    I have not heard any clarifications on this whole thing.
    It appears that a person with an account will still only get to post once every two days and in one area and have to pay each time and the changes does not indicate how they will stop the morons who flag honest and law abiding people. I have emailed cl about htis many times int he past 2 months and I have not heard any thing back yet.
    What about the people???
    I pay for an ad get injustly flagged over and over which means I have to pay over and over then maybe end up with an account being palced on hold.
    That is disgusting….
    If any one can provide some further info that this site adn CL is not telling me please divulge.
    I am all for the changes, but there is much more that could be changed as well.
  299. patsy Says: 
    November 9th, 2008 at 3:20 pmPersonally I’ve moved onto another site and to all you witches and jerks who are judging the girls who have done this. You got three fingers pointing at your selves cowards and jerks. You don’t get to judge anybody elses life as to why they may have made certain choices are gone off path to living life to their full potential. Life is not always black and white nor is it easiect to take the highest rode always to make things comfortable temporaly for ines family members or themsleves for awhile. Yes some of these girls on this post are over dramatic about “boyotting C.L and yes it’s their choice. No need for the drama but until you walk a mile in someones shoes then keep YOUR pie hole shut,and no this doesn’t give you the right to judge even if you’ve struggled but never gone off path in life. You still don’t get to judge another human being ,EVER! You’re not god and you don’t poop gold pebbles!  

    I’m sick of all the same banter so I’ll move on here and anybody else should do the same. It’s C.L’s choice and there was alot of crap,problems and law suits from the trouble makers and other things on the erotic section. They did what they had to.

  300. What i think Says: 
    November 9th, 2008 at 4:14 pmOh yeah and i want to see posted, unedited, the proof that 100% of craigslists profits goto charity. That means i wanna see where all the money goes not just what your claiming you gave away versus what went in your ceo’s pocket and since your owned by a publicly traded company you have to show us this by law. Im calling you out on this. Im seeing another goodwill thrift strore scam. I know several people who have tried to get help from the so called goodwill charity to goto school who truly needed it and its a no deal and the donated cars what a joke people deal with and donate to your local hope house and the socialist government dont care because there hands are out for all the taxes and if your wondering why you never see the good stuff you donated on the shelves at your local goodwill its because if the managers or employees dont take it they send it to florida on a train and ship it oversees to be sold at outrageous prices this was told to be by a friend whos a district manager of goodwill.
  301. Athena Says: 
    November 9th, 2008 at 4:32 pmCan we boycott? How do we do this ? Where do we start? Any providers email me back to give me some ideas on where else I can post? PLease ASAP Athena111669@com. Thank you .
  302. Eric Says: 
    November 9th, 2008 at 4:51 pmWow Obama is not even the pres yet and we are into censorship…way to go adolphlist!
  303. Try To Make A living Says: 
    November 9th, 2008 at 6:03 pmWhen and if are you going to make it so flagging will not stop me getting work. I have no reason to be flagged when I am going by the law and rules. the $5.00 is great but not if you have to post 3 to 7 times a day. What is going to be done about this. What if you get the system to not let ones post to you get proof they are legal with a lic to do ES like mail it to you and even mail there CC info so that way you have it on file. Just a thought. But I have to say I nor will any of my workers want to post when the no good people keep flagging there post for no reason. May be you should have the system keep a record of the ones that are doing the flagging and check the post that they flagged was in any way against TOU and if you see a trail of that one email flagging for no reason then boot them from CL not flag but BOOT for good even there IP address. Until we feel safe to post and not waste $ we will not post. We would pay up to $20.00 PER POST AS LONG AS WE KNOW WE HAVE A WAY TO REPOST IF WE GET FLAGGED FOR NO GOOD REASON. Like some have sad it is business and advertizing cost just write it off on your taxes.The rate of flagging is going it cost us less in the local paper and yellow pages then it will on CL
  304. Julia Says: 
    November 9th, 2008 at 6:41 pmHonestly, I’m disappointed. I have posted several times in Erotic Services when I was down on my luck and figured I could get paid to do what I do best. I loved posting there for the few months I did it, because the site policed itself pretty well. Escorts posting disclaimers, Johns being discreet, I thought it was brilliant. At $5/listing, the risk is just too high of getting flagged for me to spend money. I actually have an email address that is banned from CL because I had a few ads up one night and some jerkoff decided I was ugly and posted my ads in R&R so they would be flagged down. Not amused! The phone verification was nice, but after they blocked my email address I had to find another phone number to use for another email address. Then I had to have all of my mail forwarded to my PERSONAL E-MAIL ADDRESS, so I could forward it to the address I use to escort. Let me tell you, it was pretty uncomfortable those 1-2 times I accidently replied to a client from my personal email address and they were able to see my full real name and could look me up in a flash on google or the like.  

    In the end, I’m just sad. It’s tough economic times right now, and it’s really discomforting for me to know that if I’m broke and need some money NOW, I can’t just go on CL and post. By the way, I’m a very normal, very sweet girl with a real career and I haven’t posted on CL in months to escort. I only use it when times are REALLY bad. =(

  305. td Says: 
    November 9th, 2008 at 6:48 pmI did not read the entire article or all postings here, but craigslist probably does not want to be known as a site for prostitutes, so if this cuts down on that and they get known as a more legitimate site I think that is for the best for users and the company.
    Also I do not understand why so many people are complaining about a fee for something that never had to be offered free in the first place. I saw one ad saying people should use ebay now, craigslist does not even charge for the for sale section, but I am fairly certain that ebay does charge for posting items for sale.
  306. TimeToSue Says: 
    November 10th, 2008 at 7:42 pmFor anyone is flagged after paying this new $5 fee without being refunded, we should compile a list so that we can create a class action lawsuit against Craig’s List. This is completel bull and the only thing left to do is sue CL. I suppose they’re betting none of us will come forward to actually follow-through on such a threat. Anyone know of any popular competitors we can all move to?!
  307. Carl Says: 
    November 10th, 2008 at 7:46 pm5 bucks! give me a break, IT”S a DEAL.. one 3 day tiny ad in Register newspaper is 350.00  

    Thanks Craigslist, Good Job..

    Thin out the dead beats and fake ads.

  308. Freedom lost Says: 
    November 10th, 2008 at 8:24 pmI cant speak about the rest of the US but i have never seen an ad on CL here in NJ that even hinted or sounded like someone offering sex with underage children or teens. I am all for protcting children but this is really over the top. why not just have to register an account with more info to log in and post in the erotic section ???
  309. Monica Says: 
    November 10th, 2008 at 8:41 pmReal Nice! NOTICE HOW NOBODY IS POSTING!!!! The unwarranted flagging by other girls is bad enough but charging? Give me a break! You know we are trying to be discreet. Erotic services put Craig’s on the map. Now your regular job and real estate postings are nothing but SCAMS and your Erotic postings are FEW AND FAR BETWEEN! And to think that your Erotic posts were the only ones worth reading. LISTEN to us! Hear our voice. Do you have any idea how many peoples lives are being affected by this?
  310. td Says: 
    November 10th, 2008 at 11:00 pmI just want to say that if anyone is actually using this for legitimate business reasons then they can probably just claim the five dollars on their taxes, and if they aren’t using this as a legitimate business then they probably do not pay taxes on the money they make from cl and are still making a big profit
  311. Abuser Says: 
    November 10th, 2008 at 11:18 pmBen Franklin knew the deal over 200 years ago  

    “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety”

    Nuff said!

  312. deej Says: 
    November 10th, 2008 at 11:52 pmSeriously, i think it’s outrageous that craigslist is willing to keep out names and credit card information on file for future (any time limit) use. I live here in SF, and i’ve been by the offices, i’ve seen how many people work there, and this opens you up to a whole new level that has previously, and thankfully, been ignored by your company. Not saying that Craigslist would ever be part of such a thing, but have we NOT been paying attention to the world media? Identity Theft is just ONE of the many things that we now have to worry about when posting. And say you can reasonably guarantee that our information is secure, okay, great…What’s to stop you guys from selling our information to telemarketers…(like THOUSANDS of other companies weren’t going to do either). It’s great that the money will go to charity tho, if you MUST do it…but let’s be honest, i’m sure there will be a few more smiles in the homes of craigslist employees this christmas due to charity. And i see no mention of how long our information (THEIR INFORMATION–CUZ I WON’T BE POSTING) will be kept in this top secret file that we’re supposed to believe is completely secure before it is destroied. I’m all for catching criminals, making the bad guys pay, yadda yadda yadda, but we’re just coming out of 8 years of Bush here. Does the words ABUSE OF AUTHORITY have any bells going off for the rest of you guys? Yeah, we’re supposed to trust the Government to do what’s right, maybe on a cold day in hell.  

    And on another note, this charity thing bothers me because i’ve been fortunate and have been lucky to just need to post to pay bills every now and then, or for a little extra money for the weekend, but some out there haven’t been. They’re the one’s who are going to really suffer. Do you think the homeless kid sitting on 18th and Castro begging for change, or the crowds of people in line at the library or GLBT center have credit cards? Some of them actually try to pull themselves out of despair, and off the streets by using your service. I’ve seen them do it. The old addage is that Charity begins at home. Well, look around our city, we need it. The FEW people, because i do agree there are some, that use your site for the wrong purposes should be singled out, should be banned from our communities in craigslist. But like your press release says, yours is a worldwide site now dealing with millions of people each year. If we placed fees on everything like that then why not just add another dollar or two onto the bridge toll because while you and I may not be speeding, somewhere on the bridge there is someone that the police aren’t going to catch and ticket. Your decision to go with this plan of action shows that you’re not willing to solve the actual problem by doing some actual work and come up with a reasonable solution you’d rather just punish everyone on your site. Thanks Craigslist, we appreciate the consideration. I just think you should remember that craigslist is a site that is only in existance because those people you choose to penalize.

  313. this is only just one sign to come Says: 
    November 11th, 2008 at 12:00 amI know one thing is for sure this isn’t the only change that is going to happen, This is just a sign to yet is to be become in the near future in our country.  

    some people may think!!! that we took a step forward which we did as all people, but you know who is going to try there best to help take a 2 steps back wards they have been doing it for years, the same that is doing this government. all of you watch yourselves and that doesn’t stop here what you do and how you do it and what you say and how you say it. We as people are watched 24/7 by camera by writing and talking ip’s
    or any other form of communication that we use, about getting our info they already had it and can use it any time they want to.

    this is about the mighty dollar. the only people that are going to really have to pay is the people that are paying for erotic services How ironic isn’t it. just another reason for costs to raise. if there weren’t people getting put in jail or going to court/ there would be a lot of jobs lost wouldn’t there be now. watch out there coming on a higher level then ever
    they are in a state of emergency right now. as we should know they don’t like change and when there is they make the people suffer, every day we get closer as all people as far as race, gender, etc etc is every day they are farther apart.
    together we stand and divided we fall.

    I’m not happy with this watching people suffer not being able to go to school pay bills feed there kids supply there drug habit or any other thing people on here that NEED the money for. now people are going to find other means of getting money now like more robbing and stealing in our communities and crime on the streets. could be one of you saying what are you complaining about 5 dollars wtf and if i see you laying on the streets robbed bleeding I’m going to stand above you and say you got knocked the fuck out LOL.

    And you arrogant people out here saying why are people mad at paying 5 dollars well would you be able to live one day in there shoes? then you have the right to talk about anything close to what your saying. and remember what you said when you ask your parents for some money to help you get to the next check.

    crime,drugs,robbing,stealing,hurting,killing is what they want anyway the plan is still in affect pls don’t put down your guard down all of you be safe out there, watch your back because they don’t have it for you.

    about the people getting mad at cl for this it’s not there fault really think about it. they were left with no choice in the matter it’s all about money and politics. if they were against this you would of never heard of cl as far as erotic services. if you read the warning it said that they put erotic services in there to accommodate providers and the personals getting clogged with smut etc and what did people do clogged it with smut/
    to sum this up in a nut shell blame yourself that made that too explicit ad as the cl rules said before this even came upon cl and then the government that has and will be screwing us for centuries.

    and one more thing to the person talking about spelling get a job as a English teacher pls. I’m sure you would be a contribution to our society.

    P&L
    Rico

  314. A R Says: 
    November 11th, 2008 at 2:05 amWell, from scanning all of the replys, I think the score is 1 for CL and the rest against.  

    Jim Buckmaster has his head so far up the Attorney General’s butt, if he yawned, you could see Jim’s smiling face.

    Poor marketing decision, Jim. You get a failing grade at taking the pulse of the community!

  315. Carmelle Says: 
    November 11th, 2008 at 6:47 amIt’s all a part of the New World Order. ;)
  316. BLAZE IMAGES Says: 
    November 11th, 2008 at 10:16 amI know , the $5 a post sucks, but for a change someone can see my ad without goin thru hundreds of posts before the see my ad and notice im a fair,attractive, good business woman. To everyone reading this stay smart,play it safe,be on your toes, and make the best of your ads while we can.
  317. Joe B Says: 
    November 11th, 2008 at 11:42 amThat’s right American keep giving up your rights. The Ghestopo is coming to a town near you. Then “they” will be sleeping with you.
  318. Rules Says: 
    November 11th, 2008 at 2:00 pmI have posted in the erotic section before, but I follow the rules craigslist required. but 99% of the rest of you did not. so I am not sure why any of you are surprised by this.Thanks for ruining a good thing for the people that know how to follow the rules.
  319. mirZda Says: 
    November 11th, 2008 at 3:55 pmI was wondering how long it would take the Nazi regime to regain a foothold of power…..who would have thought it would start with craigslist?
  320. Mary Andrews Says: 
    November 11th, 2008 at 5:03 pmThis is wonderful. I think it is a total disgrace that “women” charge men to have sex with them and that men are stupid enough to pay them. Gosh guys is that the only way some of you can get sex? Sad indeed. Practice pleasing ladies and they will be chasing after you and you certainly won’t have to pay some hooker. Yes please keep the cheap hussies away!!!!!!!
  321. Queen Bee Says: 
    November 11th, 2008 at 7:12 pmI am surprised at the number of responses who are for removing the ERS area on CL. Is it actually possible that those in favor will somehow eliminate sexually related commerce by “banning” posts on one website? Really? It seems it is yet another case of “not in my back yard”. “Gee, if these providers can’t post on CL then the ‘problem’ ceases to exist”. Perhaps in your little mind. Ever hear of object permanence? Described as a child’s concept that an object they can not see no longer exists, causing distress. They soon learn that objects are permanent and do not, in fact disappear. Most 1 year olds grasp this concept! Are YOU smarter than a 1 year old???  

    Spare me the fact there may or may not be sex! People, we are are alive as a direct product of sex. In fact I recall reading the in humans sex drive is only second to hunger behaviorally!

    There is a matter of supply and demand. You can NOT blame the Escorts, for if not for clients flashing the almighty dollar they would not exist. Of course the inverse is also true, where a lonely heart wishes for some arrangement, there is a person willing to offer companionship. All relationships are reciprocal. Money is BUT one of many things that are exchanged in most if not all relationships.

    Don’t sanction Erotic Services? Great vote by refusing to participate. Just like other entertainment. Don’t rent, buy or cruise for Pornography. Trust me if the TRUE majority agreed then the “problem” would cease to exist! Typically a vocal minority, often with fiscal power or politial influence ACT as if they are a majority. I know there are those who, like myself, support adult entertainment but don’t have the time, money or stamina to stand in support.

    Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it! Prohibition was a gigantic failure. It is ludicrous to believe that morality can be legislated. So this trickle down measure based on the pressures for some 40 odd District At tourneys focused on CL is not surprising, it smack of prohibitionism! They are attempting to subjugate a form of human sexual behavior that a portion of society arbitrarily deemed unacceptable. Just as prohibiting alcohol was a miserable failure, prohibiting by law or policy the business of Adult Entertainment is literally implausible.

    In short, I will chose the value of my person, and my sexuality. I do not want government attempting to legislate my sexuality outside the confines of consent!

    Necessity is the mother of invention. CL may play with these new rules, but the power of demand and ingenuity of numerous providers and customers will result in new and perhaps better options as to disseminating the information known as a post in ERS!!

    Have a better mousetrap? Love to hear about it! Email me atGood2BetheQueen@gmail.com

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